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Old 09-01-2010, 09:00 AM
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8/23/2010


Gulf Red Snapper Season in October?
Updates from the August Gulf Council Meeting.


Red Snapper



During the August Gulf Council meeting in Pensacola, the Council agreed to re-open the recreational red snapper season on October 1 for an addition 24 days. The measure will be reviewed and, if approved, implemented by NOAA Fisheries. NOAA Fisheries is currently seeking comment on the proposed emergency action and will accept comments through August 31, 2010.



The rationale is that the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and subsequent federal fishing area closure resulted in reduced fishing effort, leaving the recreational red snapper quota unfilled. NOAA Fisheries determined that approximately 2.3 millions pounds of the 3.4 million pound recreational quota remains.



In other red snapper news, the Council also discussed an increase in red snapper total allowable catch for 2011-2012. That would mean commercial and recreational quotas of 3.664 million pounds and 3.521 million pounds, respectively.



Gag Grouper



The Gulf Council approved a NOAA request that will prohibit the recreational harvest of gag grouper beginning January 1, 2011. Commercial interests would be given a 100,000-pound commercial quota. The commercial quota was established to allow commercials targeting other species to retain bycatch of gag grouper.



A re-opening is dependent upon a reassessment that will soon be underway and available for Council review during its February 2011 Council meeting. The Council will decide at that time whether it is necessary to request an extension of the interim rule or a new revised interim rule that would allow for some recreational harvest of gags.



Gag grouper is one of the four species included in the Reef Fish Fishery Management Planís Reef Fish Amendment 32. Because that amendment is not scheduled for implementation until mid-late 2011, an interim rule is necessary to minimize regulatory discards and reduce overfishing of gag. Public hearings will be scheduled early next year, with final action expected during the June or August 2011 Council meeting.



Greater Amberjack



Recent Gulf Council action could result in a new recreational season closure for greater amberjack. The Council claims the new closure dates would be an effort to avoid in-season quota closures during peak fishing months and maximize social and economic benefits. Last year the recreational AJ season closed October 24. The Council has tentatively chosen a recreational seasonal closure of June 1 through July 31, as its preferred alternative.
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I may just sell both boats and get a dedicated go-fast becasue fishing has become an endangered sport. I still love the water.
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Bunch of idiots have no clue what they are doing.
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im making 5 trips a day starting oct 1st the snapper around here are all #15 or better i will be able to walk on rsnapper from here to mexico if we dont slay them hard in those 21 days..............there is nothing else around here right now they have ate all of the grouper and trigger, and im tired of catching amberjack
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Bunch of idiots have no clue what they are doing.
Amen! Brother Most of them dont know the difference between a AJ and Gag.
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Red Snapper here of the Gulf coast were growing bigger and getting thicker when the regs were april - nov 4 per person. Now because of even tighter regs (2 each 1.5 months) they are even bigger again and so thick you can not fish in some locations because thats all you will catch.
Same goes for Gags, 4 per person closed feb - march was working fine. Then they switch from 4 each to 2 each and now they are gonna close gags next year. WTF..?
And why does someone fishng 100 miles offshore in waters that are hardly fished have to follow the same regs as people who fish in close to shore were the fish get hammered? I can fish all day 100 miles out and only see 1 boat if that. I have often burned through 100 pin fish trying to catch something other than a Red Snapper when they are out of season.
They also say Red Grouper are over fished so we can only keep 2 of those each at 20" but yet they continue to allow the barbaric long liners operate. Those guys kill everything and they are allowed to keep 16" red Grouper. Thats why we cant find any 20" Red Groupers. Those guys leave the dock with enough bait to fish for 1 day but are out 2 weeks at a time. Anything smaller than 16" gets used for bait because its dead anyways. Those guys can hook n line like the rest of us so they can be selective and there size limit needs to go up to 24" just like comercial gags.
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im making 5 trips a day starting oct 1st the snapper around here are all #15 or better i will be able to walk on rsnapper from here to mexico if we dont slay them hard in those 21 days..............there is nothing else around here right now they have ate all of the grouper and trigger, and im tired of catching amberjack
You need to read the BS about the red snapper re-opening, it is only open on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
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You need to read the BS about the red snapper re-opening, it is only open on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Probably to help out the charter boats who run most of their trips on the weekends.
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Red Snapper here of the Gulf coast were growing bigger and getting thicker when the regs were april - nov 4 per person. Now because of even tighter regs (2 each 1.5 months) they are even bigger again and so thick you can not fish in some locations because thats all you will catch.
Same goes for Gags, 4 per person closed feb - march was working fine. Then they switch from 4 each to 2 each and now they are gonna close gags next year. WTF..?
And why does someone fishng 100 miles offshore in waters that are hardly fished have to follow the same regs as people who fish in close to shore were the fish get hammered? I can fish all day 100 miles out and only see 1 boat if that. I have often burned through 100 pin fish trying to catch something other than a Red Snapper when they are out of season.
They also say Red Grouper are over fished so we can only keep 2 of those each at 20" but yet they continue to allow the barbaric long liners operate. Those guys kill everything and they are allowed to keep 16" red Grouper. Thats why we cant find any 20" Red Groupers. Those guys leave the dock with enough bait to fish for 1 day but are out 2 weeks at a time. Anything smaller than 16" gets used for bait because its dead anyways. Those guys can hook n line like the rest of us so they can be selective and there size limit needs to go up to 24" just like comercial gags.
I agree....total BS....last time I was out (last week) all I could catch were 16-18" red grouper.....caught one really nice 24" gag, and alot of flannels as well as black bass....we limited out on AJ's in less than 30 minutes, with a dead depth sounder.....so why they would limit those is beyond me.......they must know something about the years aggregate tonage caught that I don't, I know they've never asked me to weigh my catch....I'm gettin pretty tired of it though.....as if the boating/fishing industry isn't hurting enough....it's about control.....they want you to rely on the foreign seafood that they have shipped in from other countries....you know, internationa redistribution of what's left of our so called wealth.......they are the one's out of control!
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as if the boating/fishing industry isn't hurting enough!

Exactly, there are no boats offshore fishing. Rec are not even taking half of what they use to.
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Exactly, there are no boats offshore fishing. Rec are not even taking half of what they use to.
2nd that!!!
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Now, how can they get BP to pay the fishing related jobs lost? Maybe the govt could....lie?
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One thing that has always bothered me is why aren't all the major boat manufactures, tackle shops, Bass Pro shops, charter guys, TV fishing shows and anyone who makes a living of the ocean Lobbying lawyers and rolling up their sleeves? What are all the boat manufactures and tackle shops gonna do when no one is allowed to keep any fish anymore? I for one will either move to another place or sell my boat when things get so bad that we cant even keep a few fish for a meal anymore.
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This is all part of the larger plan of the "green, tree-hugger, enviro-extortionist" to ban fishing, commercially and recreationally. Don't believe me? Look at the "closures" to both groups along the california coast in the name of protected areas or sanctuaries. All of this regulation goes completely against the most recent data, but they (the feds) are sticking it to us. Better think twice next time before you donate to one of these sappy save the world enviro-groups, you are quite probably cutting your own throat.
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