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Old 06-07-2010, 04:25 PM
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Well its that time again to change out the throttle/shift cables. It seems I have to change these Teleflex cables (the standard ones) about every 5 years or so.

I put new standard OMC/BRP Teleflex cables in the boat when I repowered the boat in October of 2005. I just started having problems getting one of the engines into reverse. It shifts in and out of forward with ease. If I can get it in reverse it comes back to neutral easy.

I'm fairly certain its the cable because when I disconnect the cable from the gear shift linkage on the engine I can put the engine in and out of gear with two fingers ...with a load (boat in water)

Then when I push the throttle lever at the helm without the cable connected to the gear linkage it is not very hard but I can feel a little resistance and slop. And when I disconnect the cable from the throttle lever on the helm its super easy to move.

No there are no tight bends, every bend is very gradual.

So......I just bought all new Teleflex "Extreme" cables which wasn't cheap as you have to buy the adaptor kits for the engine and binnacle. The adaptor kits for the binnacle side was 100 bucks for two cables. So a total of 200 bucks in adaptors just for the binnacle. Then another 50 bucks for the engine side adaptors.

Anyone know if the $240.00 in cables and $250.00 in adaptors is worth it? The extreme cables to seem to be of better quality than the standard cables.
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Guess "worth it" is in the eye of the beholder, but we use the extreme cables on our boats and they are really nice.
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Guess "worth it" is in the eye of the beholder, but we use the extreme cables on our boats and they are really nice.
The term "worth it" to me is not having to change them out every 5 years and smoother operation. Thanks for your opinion on them, thats what I was looking for.
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Installed them on my boat several years ago. Made a big difference particularly in shifting. Much more defined.
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I guess you will have to change them all 5 years as well, BUT during this time you will enjoy shifting...
Thats a great thing and worth the money, i think

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Good replies, thanks. I don't know if the standard cables were bad with shifting and throttle response. Then again I have nothing to compare them to.
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Chris,
You can buy the Extremes already with the traditional type 479 ends, no adaptors needed...

Boatersland has 24's for $55.23 per...check it out, they'll fit your binnacle and motors.

http://www.boatersland.com/omctfxtreme.html

You've got a BRP twin binnacle, right?
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Well its that time again to change out the throttle/shift cables. It seems I have to change these Teleflex cables (the standard ones) about every 5 years or so.

I put new standard OMC/BRP Teleflex cables in the boat when I repowered the boat in October of 2005. I just started having problems getting one of the engines into reverse. It shifts in and out of forward with ease. If I can get it in reverse it comes back to neutral easy.

I'm fairly certain its the cable because when I disconnect the cable from the gear shift linkage on the engine I can put the engine in and out of gear with two fingers ...with a load (boat in water)

Then when I push the throttle lever at the helm without the cable connected to the gear linkage it is not very hard but I can feel a little resistance and slop. And when I disconnect the cable from the throttle lever on the helm its super easy to move.

No there are no tight bends, every bend is very gradual.

So......I just bought all new Teleflex "Extreme" cables which wasn't cheap as you have to buy the adaptor kits for the engine and binnacle. The adaptor kits for the binnacle side was 100 bucks for two cables. So a total of 200 bucks in adaptors just for the binnacle. Then another 50 bucks for the engine side adaptors.

Anyone know if the $240.00 in cables and $250.00 in adaptors is worth it? The extreme cables to seem to be of better quality than the standard cables.

Getting 4-5 years out of cables it pretty good. On my parasail boats we would run through cables in 2 years or so. We used the red teleflex, I think list on them were about 90 each and with my good ol boy discount I paid about 45-50 each.

I just got 6 more for the fountain, and paid right at 45 each for them.. I am not sure if they are the extream but they are the most expensive ones offered in the catalog I have.
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Exact list on these are 33C TFextream 95.80 each for 24ft. I paid 46.79 each with my wholesale account.
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Make sure you can shift them easy by hand at the motor first, Those OMC's like to get tight where the shift shaft enters the gearcase....2 orings and salt gets down there and makes the shifting hard.....when it binds there it can also make the throttle tight......yes probably need cables but even new cables will suk if the shaft is tight.....
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Chris,
You can buy the Extremes already with the traditional type 479 ends, no adaptors needed...

Boatersland has 24's for $55.23 per...check it out, they'll fit your binnacle and motors.

http://www.boatersland.com/omctfxtreme.html

You've got a BRP twin binnacle, right?
Interesting. I went to West Marine to get them and I was asking about the direct replacement OMC/BRP Extreme cables but they didn't have them either in the store or their "warehouse'. The person helping me called Teleflex directly right in front of me and he was told mid to late June is when they would be available.

I thought that was strange but oh well. I have the boat on the trailer now so I needed the cables before Thursday so I can be back in the water Saturday.

I think the universal cables will be easier to run anyway since there are no bulky ends on them. Those rigging tubes are a bitch.
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Make sure you can shift them easy by hand at the motor first, Those OMC's like to get tight where the shift shaft enters the gearcase....2 orings and salt gets down there and makes the shifting hard.....when it binds there it can also make the throttle tight......yes probably need cables but even new cables will suk if the shaft is tight.....
That was my first guess. Even though these are 2005 BRPs the shift design seems pretty much the same as the OMCs. I can shift the engine in and out of gear (including reverse) with two fingers with the boat in the water. I mentioned that in my initial post.
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I know nothing of the inter change ability but, I just got the Mercury Platinum cables put on mine and it is unbelievable the difference. He showed me both teleflex cable and the platinum cable in the coil new. The teleflex you had to get a hold on it to slide it back and forth, the Platinum cables were in a tighter coil and you could slide it back and forth with two fingers.
Like I said I don't know if they will work in your case, but it sure is nice having them slide like butter.
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5 years? Good grief! I am not going to tell you how old my cables are.
When I hung the new motors I bought new cable ends for fifteen dollars for switching from Suzuki to Merc.
I am coming due on the shift cables, my throttles are fine but if the new ones are only going to last 5 years then maybe I should wait another season or so.

What's going on with the cables? Are they wearing through the jackets or just binding up?
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Interesting. I went to West Marine to get them and I was asking about the direct replacement OMC/BRP Extreme cables but they didn't have them either in the store or their "warehouse'. The person helping me called Teleflex directly right in front of me and he was told mid to late June is when they would be available.

I thought that was strange but oh well. I have the boat on the trailer now so I needed the cables before Thursday so I can be back in the water Saturday.

I think the universal cables will be easier to run anyway since there are no bulky ends on them. Those rigging tubes are a bitch.
I guess the builders get a little head start. We've been using them for around 3 years or so...same with Merc type 400s...
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Extreme cables have a thicker jacket material around the cores of stainless windings inside the cable and they also have more windings to prevent a bind in less than 6 inch bends. I have used them for years and had a set on my Regulator for over 8 years with no change from day one. They are worth the difference just as the Yamaha Premier cables are better than the stock ones.

Look around and you can find them for less than retail.
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I used the Merc Platinum cables, but was told they are basically the same as the extremes and probably made by teleflex anyway. I also changed out my binacles from Merc Gen I to Gen II....that made a HUGE difference.
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The extreme's are great!
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Chris,
We use the U-Flex Mach Series and they are IMO a better cable than the Extreme. If you want, PM me and I'll get you what you need for less than half of what you stated. Also, the Uflex Cables need no adapters, They make a specific cable for each brand.
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Chris,

My experience with the TFXtreme is that you can tie that cable into a knot and it will still move with relative ease. As far as the comparison between them and the Mercury GEN II or Platinum cables, OEM's can order GEN II or Platinum style from Teleflex so yes they are basically the same cable, and they all work great.
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