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Old 08-08-2004, 10:29 AM
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I live in Florida and am looking at a boat in the Sea Bright, NJ area via the internet. I'm looking for a reputable marine surveyor in that area to do a survey. I would appreciate any suggestions from this, well informed, forum.

Also, is it customary to have to include a deposit when placing an offer on a boat from a boat broker? I can understand that it lets the buyer know that you're serious, but they are asking for a 10% refundable deposit on a $60k boat just to make an offer. When I bought my house, I only had to give a 1% deposit with the offer. It just sounds excessive.

If everything works out, I will be heading up to NJ and trailering the boat back to FL.
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Drop Dunk a line, he has a great rep.

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Old 08-08-2004, 11:08 AM
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A 10% deposit is standard operating procedure*when buying*a boat.* The broker should only require you to send him a faxed copy of the check along with the signed copy of the offer.* If the seller accepts the offer you should be prepared to get that check to the broker asap.* Our company only requires a 5% deposit as we feel that is adequate, but most require 10.
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John Spencer, the best in the business. I have used him several times; and he does a very detailed inspection. 1-800-255-2261 or 732-255-4700. He is also much closer to Sea Bright than Dunk.
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Patrick Marine Technologies Yacht & Engine Surveyors, Neptune City , NJ Phone: 732-988-5483
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What about engine surveyors in NJ, Brick area?
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Old 08-09-2004, 09:00 PM
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Jags,
What kind of engines? If they are them there oil burning outboards I can do a compression for ya. If they have good compression, run and smoke like hell they should last at least 10 more minutes. Seriously what engines. I know several guys who can do a good job. If they are Cats I recommend Ransom only. They did mine; cost a grand and worth every penny.
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I used Rob Cozen, he was excellent. 1 (800) 64SURVEY or: http://www.marine-surveyor.com/
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Thanks for all the info. I called Dunk and he is going to do the survey for me, pending acceptance of my offer. The boat is a 2000 266SC World Cat with twin 200 Yamaha HPDI's.

I took a test ride in a 2005 270EC on Saturday in Daytona, FL and the seas were 4-6' with 15-20 knot winds. I was very impressed with the ride. I've never been out on a true deep vee, like contender or see vee, so I can't compare the rides. I have been on a 250 BW Outrage, and the ride of the World Cat blew it away. Not trying to start anything, just wanting to give my opinion.
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You know I am not an outboard guy. I may need a surveyor on Cummins diesels. Who do you recommend?
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Ask the broker who he recommends, and then use somebody else.

I'll second John Spencer, he did an excellent job for me.
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you could maybe try to negotiate the deposit amount???????


negotiated a lease one time to 6 month term from a year........... better to have a buyer then have none..............
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Crozen did my 28Bertram in 1994 and he completely missed the fact the whole fuel system plumbing was not to USCG standards. It was metal braided lines with soft iron swage fittings. They were completely rusted out under the deck; but I found them with a flashlight a few days after I owned the boat. I called him for advice and he would not return my calls. I was not even asking for a refund. I just wanted advice on what grade fuel hose I should use as I was going to replumb the whole three tank system anyway. Crozen sure puts big ads in the magizines; while John Spencer doesn't advertize at all. Go figure.
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Patrick J. Dender surveyed my previous boat, a 24 Wellcraft Coastal.

Very proffessional and courteous.

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lots of ads in this jersey rag for surveyors:

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wait. try this:

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dwm, you hit the nail on the head!! Another lesson I learned is that I will try not to use surveyors who recommend each other. In other words, if I hire a hull surveyor, I will try and use someone the hull surveyor is not big buddies with. This may sound odd but the situation that I found myself in a few months ago was that I had hired a hull surveyor and based on his recommendation hired an engine surveyor he liked working with. The survey was cancelled and re-scheduled at the last minute because the hull surveyor promised he would take care of all details(like notifying the engine surveyor, scheduling the haul out etc) and he didn't do anything. The hull surveyor then jumped me on the phone because he said I was the one who caused the cancellation. I politely notified him that the survey was cancelled because the engine surveyor was never notified and we didn't have a haul out scheduled which was 100% the hull guys fault(this was in writing by the way). After I tried to set the record straight, saying that the cancellation had nothing to do with me, the hull surveyor just plain cancelled and then he talked the engine surveyor into cancellation as well. As it turned out, I never re-scheduled the survey due to some things I found out about the boat so I wasn't hurt.

So, I want guys who work for me and not for each other.
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