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Old 05-24-2010, 01:53 PM
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I have a pair of 2006 150 Hondas that I flush everytime I use them, but I use the screw off hose connection with a Y-rig to flush both at the same time. I Obviously dont run the motors doing this.

I want to be able to run the motors on the hose with a set of earmuffs but when I tried this the engines dont pick up the water thru the lower unit like the older outboards used to, I had the hose on and then cranked the motors but neither would pull the water, I just wonder if they will only do that when the lower units are fully submerged???
ANyone else have this issue with the newer Hondas??
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No issues with mine. Use the rectangular muffs, make sure they cover the ports correctly, and only flush one at a time.
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Yeah that's what I did, Ill give it another shot. Hard to imagine both water pump impellers are toast... may try submerging the lower unit to see if that changes anything..
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have a pair of 04 150s no problem using the muffs make sure water on full and bump up the rpms just a little
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I had the same issue on my Yamaha 150s, square muffs and all. Check the pressure/volume you are getting out of your hose. I had to crank up my regulator to increase the pressure and then it was fine.
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Yammis have problems with the muffs; Hondas usually do not. Andy, what does your manual say? I know the old 150's ran fine on the muffs; can't see why yours won't. As Ritschner said, I'd only try one at a time.
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My 2002 honda 225s run fine on the muffs, one at a time.
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Use the cheap round muffs they fit better.

I went a purchased a new set of rectangular muffs and they leaked.
Pull out the old round rusty muffs and they worked fine.
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Will prob give the muffs a shot again, just can't imagine both impellers going out same time...
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I have a similar issue with my 2002 BF225. If I attach the hose to the flushing port to fill the system with water and then (quickly) attach the ear muffs and start the engine, the engine will pull water. The stream is not as strong as when the engine is in the water, but water is circulating.
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I was having the same problem years ago with a 200 Yammy. Try to adjust the locations of the muff a little. I find they need to be offset of the ports slightly, and not directly over the top. Mine have a sweet spot for pick up, find the sweet spot and you should be fine.
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I made a Y rig with the rectangular muffs that have the water feed on both sides and they flushed my Honda 225's many times with no problem at all. I'm now using that same setup on Yamahas and it is working just fine. The key seems to be having the water feed on both sides of the engine.
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I have a pair of 2006 150 Hondas that I flush everytime I use them, but I use the screw off hose connection with a Y-rig to flush both at the same time. I Obviously dont run the motors doing this.

I want to be able to run the motors on the hose with a set of earmuffs but when I tried this the engines dont pick up the water thru the lower unit like the older outboards used to, I had the hose on and then cranked the motors but neither would pull the water, I just wonder if they will only do that when the lower units are fully submerged???
ANyone else have this issue with the newer Hondas??
I don't know about the 150, but I had a 2004 50HP and there was a water pick up right above the propeller that had to be covered. I used duct tape. Just don't forget to remove it when you are done.
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Been there, done that!

I have had my two BF150's (2008's) do the same thing. Not enough water pressure here. Ive tried both muff styles. I get the hot engine alarm on both after a few minutes...


Here's what I did.... Coastal Farms has rubbermaid horse type water buckets that are not square, but rectangular.--They are also nice and deep... They're about $65 each. Bought two and slide them under both motors. They have a large drain plug when your done. Fixed the issue!

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I have '04 BF150s and I flush both out at the same time but use a "full flow" manifold. I get the full "pee" stream from both motors. I use the rect muffs.
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Curiosity, what do you mean by a "full flow manifold?" New term for me, in this context.
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Those are the manifolds where the actual valve orifices are the same diameter of the hose's inner diameter so that you don't have any flow restrictions. The one I use has 3/4" valves in it.
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Those are the manifolds where the actual valve orifices are the same diameter of the hose's inner diameter so that you don't have any flow restrictions. The one I use has 3/4" valves in it.
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Yeah that's what I did, Ill give it another shot. Hard to imagine both water pump impellers are toast... may try submerging the lower unit to see if that changes anything..
If they both have the same amount of hours the condition of the impellers will be around the same. maybe they are just worn. I replaced mine in my honda last year they pump good now. sometimes my 2000 130's get clogged and dont circulate water
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