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Old 05-10-2010, 08:21 AM
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I live in southeast Florida, close to freshwater lakes and ocean access. Want to take kids and friends on lake for waterskiing, basic fishing, as well as on the ocean - close to the shore - on calm days. Would like to be able to dive/snorkel/fish on wrecks, reefs. Need trailerable 19-24'. Any advise? Thanks!
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I've taken mine on Lake Tarpon, Lake Seminole and Okeechobee as well as diving and off shore 20 miles. The Armstrong ladder and euro transom are great for diving and getting the kids in and off the boat.

So, to take the make out of the question, a CC or bow rider with a euro transom and an Armstrong extended dive ladder is a nice combination for diving and the kids.

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A lake boat is usually made for lakes and will have troubles with bigger waves while a ocean boat will have no trouble in a lake.
I have a Boston Whaler 23 Outrage and i find this boat a perfect mix for doing all. Diving with 12 divers,
just cruising around, fishing, wakeboarding and skiing
Any center console between 18-24' should do the trick, but i know only from my experience that Boston Whalers are very rugged boats with high gunnels and a stable behaviour stopped or cruising.

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....I have a Boston Whaler 23 Outrage and i find this boat a perfect mix for doing all. Diving with 12 divers,
just cruising around, ......

Chris
Here is a pick from one of Chris' latest Dive trips to Pennykamp....

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Been there done that, this year I sold my sleek fast bass boat and my 22' CC deep v boat to have only 1 boat. Lived too far away from ocean to justify a big CC, but sure did not want to put a bass boat in saltwater. Plus could not afford 2 boats. So I bought a Sea Pro SV1900 19' bay boat. It is deeper than my bass boat. Sea Pro made SV2100 & SV2400 models also. Plenty of different models around.
Here is a Sea Pro 21' bay boat in Orlando

http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/1730056695.html
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:14 PM
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I've taken mine on Lake Tarpon, Lake Seminole and Okeechobee as well as diving and off shore 20 miles. The Armstrong ladder and euro transom are great for diving and getting the kids in and off the boat.

So, to take the make out of the question, a CC or bow rider with a euro transom and an Armstrong extended dive ladder is a nice combination for diving and the kids.

thanks, but what's a "euro transom"
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I would look at a DC. Either a Sea Hunt, Key West or Grady. I think it will give you everything you want.
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Thanks for the info. Don't mean to be dense, but what's a "DC"
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forget it - i figured it out (on the Key West Boats website) dual console, thanks!
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Sorry, Duel Console.
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12 divers on a 23????????????????????????? right.....

I had 9 on a 40 and that was a lot of weight with the tanks and gear.....

Hell 12 people on a 23 just to go fishing is a lot,

I am calling BS!
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Check out the Robalo R227. Its heavy, but its as versatile as you could expect for a boat. My requirements were similar to what you said you wanted in a boat. It has an offshore deep V hull, tons of room, can put out either a big wake for wakeboarding or a small wake for skiiing, optional fish/ski tower, live well, etc.

No question I'm a little biased but I looked around quite a bit before I got it and wouldn't second guess my decision.

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I was basically in the same situation. Decided on a 21-foot Everglades CC. Been great at the sandbar (swimming), on the bay cruising & in the Ocean (fishing). Everglades makes a HELL of a boat with great fit & finish.
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Euro Transom is if the back of the boat Slopes downward on the gunnels.
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12 divers on a 23????????????????????????? right.....

I had 9 on a 40 and that was a lot of weight with the tanks and gear.....

Hell 12 people on a 23 just to go fishing is a lot,

I am calling BS!
Too bad thay you where not there, usual number of divers oscillated between 7 and 10....
Actually there where 12 divers with one tank each and me as captain.
The Boston Whaler Outrage 23 has (at least in Europe) 12 people CG permit,
and with 2 F150 he moves still well with 12 divers and 1 captain...
I would not say there was much space left, but it worked...

I don't know what type of 40' you have/had but a 40' should carry 9 divers and tanks easily...

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Those in the photo where 10
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Not sure where you are in South East Florida but theres a lot of fixed bridges/water pipes that can restrict the Lake hopping. You will need a boat with a bimini top as opposed to a T-Top. Most "Bay Boats" should fill your needs. I did it for 10 years with an 18.5 Privateer and it worked great for Lake Osborne and Lake Ida as well as some offshore fishing when the seas were quiet. Now I have gone bigger and retired the Privateer to the Lake only.
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OCO:

Do you have a budget?
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Pioneer 197SF with a 150 Suzuki will pull double skiers all day long, run in 18" of water if you need to, run 40 miles offshore without beating you up, not burn alot of gas, is foam filled and I doubt you could sink one, and probably the best sub-21ft fishing boat you could buy.

After that, I was going to suggest the HS 2000 Vector, but sparky already did.

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Too bad thay you where not there, usual number of divers oscillated between 7 and 10....
Actually there where 12 divers with one tank each and me as captain.
The Boston Whaler Outrage 23 has (at least in Europe) 12 people CG permit,
and with 2 F150 he moves still well with 12 divers and 1 captain...
I would not say there was much space left, but it worked...

I don't know what type of 40' you have/had but a 40' should carry 9 divers and tanks easily...

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Those in the photo where 10

Huh... I guess I take back what I said.....

But Damn dude that is a lot of weight in a 23...

We had 9 divers with 4 tanks gear and guns... We were turny loaded 40 Dorado Bluewater.. you figure those 120's weigh a ton, plus everyone brought at least 2 guns + ice for 20 hours or so... Yeah she was heavy.

I had 4 divers with 4 tanks each on a 31 cape horn and she was not happy...

Did they do a stability test on that boat for 12 people? Here in the states we go through hell getting a 31 with 10ft beam inspected. Its a 15k +- ordeal
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The Sea Hunt Ultra series is very versatile if you prefer a CC
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