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View Poll Results: Which is a better deal? If you think option 3 is best, please pick a boat too
Boat 1 (hydrasports) 12 21.43%
Boat 2 (StarCraft) 18 32.14%
continue to save, wait till your out of college IDIOT! 29 51.79%
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Old 05-05-2010, 05:49 PM   #1
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Default which is a better deal?

Remember if you think option 3 is the best for me, please also pick which boat is a better deal! the poll is Multi-Select

Ok so Ive posted a ton of threads on here, and it is finally payed off. I have it narrowed down to two boats.

Boat number 1:
1998 Hydrasports 2450, with twin 1998 johnson 150's. Has gps, fishfinder, and radar
1300 hours.
Known problems: Needs upholstery BAD, The feet on the ttop are cracked (needs new ones welded, or get this fixed) and and has a 3" crack IN THE GELCOAT ONLY on the transom. Engines have just been serviced and are running in top notch condition (so the seller says).
9000

Boat Number 2:
1989 Starcraft Bluewater 210. With new ttop new gps new fish finder. boat isnt bottom painted is in great condition. This is a one owner boat he bought it at a boat show in 1988. He repowered in 2000 with a 1999 Johnson 225. He estimates 300 hours are on it. He put a new fuel tank in it and an entire new fuel system, and had the carbs rebuild last fall. Boat could pass for a 2000 model easy.
known problems: NONE
5500



Now granted they both have pros and cons, the first boat is a whoooole lot more boat, but it is generally in rougher condition, the second boat is in much better shape but obviously is alot less boat. My uses are offshore 3-6 times a year the rest will be lakes cruising, fishing, or watersports.

So what do yall think is the better buy?

Remember if you think option 3 is the best for me, please also pick which boat is a better deal! the poll is Multi-Select

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Old 05-05-2010, 06:22 PM   #2
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that third option may bite me in the ass lol, already 3 people have selected that without a boat....PLEASE SELECT A BOAT TOO.

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Old 05-05-2010, 06:25 PM   #3
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don't really like my choice, but you have to be able to find one somewhere in the middle.

I don't like the t-top failure, or the transom crack, OR the 2 in conjunction. Aluminum is prone to cracks when stressed, but it would take a GOOOOOD deal of stress to crack. Also, how do you know that the crack in the transom is gelcoat only? Did you get an x-ray of the transom? My thought is that the guy is trying to sell a 1200hr outboard boat for 9 grand(seems very pverpriced for the hours on those motors) is not paying for an x-ray. There is NO other way to know if it is gelcoat or fiberglass any. Fiberglass can "stress-fracture" and still not be theoretically seen by the naked eye. However an x-ray machine will pick it up.

The starcraft seems like a MUCH better boat than the hydrasports, even at the smaller size. If you DO plan to go offshore, I would try and find a larger boat than 21', but NOT in as bad of condition as the Hydrasports.

What is your budget?
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Old 05-05-2010, 06:44 PM   #4
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My budget is 10-12k but its cash, so the less i spend the more i have.

Here are a couple of the starcraft



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Here are a couple of the hydrasport. Notice the crack on the transom and the ttop foot. (3 of the 4 feet are like this)





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HOLY &%*^((#)#$&. Looked at boats out there by you(just looked seattle area for a reference) HOLY*&@$($@). HOW DO YOU GUYS PAY THOSE PRICES???????

I saw a 1995 Aquasport, original 1995 FICHT Johnson, 15K!!!!!!!

Honestly, here on the east coast you can get that hydrasports, with NONE of the cracks, and something like late 90's power for what he is asking. Then either come out here and tow it back yourself, or get a tow company quote, and save that amount of money.

I wouldn't pay NEARLY 1/3rd the price most of the boats I saw on there. I saw a lot of "alumiweld" boats. While not that specific name, you can find a late 80's aluminum welded boat, with 2000+ power for under 3000. Those prices are ludacris, and I would not even come close to paying the prices I saw out there.

If you are opposed to the idea of buying east and towing west, I would definitely go with the starcraft. The hydrasports with the transom crack, and broken welds on the t-top, has seen some BAD stress, and without an x-ray I wouldn't trust one single strand of fiberglass on her.
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:46 PM   #6
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Hey chief, I have been literally looking at boattrade,r usedboats, iboat, ebay, and craigslist cities scattered across the nation. No distance is to far. I have a WTB in the forsale section here and my last post was I will pay a 200.00 finder fee to anybody that can find and send me to a boat that I end up buying. There ya go the challenge is made
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You're for serious? I'll find ya one.

So you are in washington area right?

Gotta be a CC right? Any specific power-plant?
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Here's one, but it is a Cuddy:http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/1724430722.html

here ya go. 24' Grady, single 1998 Johnson 225, $8k. Doesn't seem like it has a trailer, which would make up your other 2-4k in a brand new aluminum trailer:http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/1725394415.html
Seems like it is underpowered, but would be a NICE sturdy platform to put something like twin 140 zukes in 5 years or so.

And the best one yet. 2001 boat and motor, Hydrasports vector, CC, GPS/FF, included is a slip for all of 2010. The slip probably cost him 2,000 for the season, and cash always talks. Like this guy is asking 10,500, I would offer 9,000 excluding the slip.http://cnj.craigslist.org/boa/1724425581.html

Little older, but an option:http://southjersey.craigslist.org/boa/1712156881.html

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Im in Texas.

Needs to be a CC
No specific powerplant, I would rather have one of the more reliable platforms, but as long as its a good running engine with compression, I can tinker/learn on these things myself...Heck thats what THT is for
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there ya go chevy, I thinnk you now have 4 better options than the ones you were looking at.

Those are only goine 3-4 days back in NJ on CL. I would look into Mid-atlantic. If I have some free time tomorrow(should, works been very slow as of late) I can do some more searching.
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that hydrasport definintely is the best deal..however no ttop which I would prefer = 2,000$. 150<225 quite a bit. So money wise I still dont think im getting 4k more in boat, and its far away. Haha i dont know I appreciate the look, Im gonna get some pics of that hydrasports
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I always liked the layout and build of the Starcraft.

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I shouldnt have put that last option, Ive had 11 people vote there that didnt also pick a boat
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Starcraft will serve your needs well and at that price you can customize it a bit if you want to. HS are great boats but 1. this is not a vector and 2. the work will more than eat up your budget 3. twins are great, but twice the work and main. costs. The only thing worse than no boat is owning a boat that sits on the trailer!

Agree with AFD, the layout of the SC is great for fishing and cruising. Plus, sounds like you will be trailering and the SC will be easy to pop in and out at most any ramp.

Fresh out of college with a nice boat and a few grand in the bank for beer and mans most expensive habit, chasing tail... for me it is a no brainer!
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By the time you factor in a min of 100.00 per trip (towing Fuel, Bait ect) go to 2cry fishing and simply pay to play...Folks over there always want extra gas money!!!

No need to discuss in further details.

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Thanks mobjack I like your thinking

I offered 4800 on the starcraft. That leaves me some money to play with. Bolsters, Delete bowrail and add a good trolling motor, and Id really like some trim tabs.

The guy says unloaded the top speed is 45-47. But loaded down 4-5 people bait fuel tackle ice it still cruises at 35 nicely but can have a hard time getting out of the hole.

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Yer in college. Keep as much money as you can. But, you should fish, so go with the Starcraft.

That Hydra has been rode H-A-R-D.


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Chevy, if hole shot is the only issue, you might not need tabs, especially on the lake. You might want to talk to the Permatrim guys http://www.thehulltruth.com/permatri...hydrofoils-21/ I hear good things about their products!
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I think the Starcraft is a decent buy and condition looks good for age. I did a quick scan of Craigslist South Florida and found 5 or 6 CCs less than $10k. A trip to Miami/Ft. Lauderdale with cash in hand could pay off nicely, and the scenery here is nice...
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could you send me links to any of those cc's with a trailer, ttop, and decent electronics?

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