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Old 04-23-2010, 10:04 AM
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Default Fish The Classic - Shamrock 26' Stalker

I recently purchased a 1988 Shamrock 26' Stalker, this question may be a bit out of proportion but wondering if anyone has insight into joining the fishtheclassic forum. I attempted to join for the first time and it said my email is banned, this is the first time visiting the site ever. I used my secondary email address and same note, email banned. I have sent a half dozen emails to the forum administrator with no response. I love using "The Hull Truth" and will continue to do so I just thought it would be interesting to join the fishtheclassic forum also, joining it seems to be the interesting part. Any help is greatly appreciated and I will post photos of the Shamrock 26 Stalker upon delivery. Have a great day!
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I had no problem joining but I had to use a work e-mail account. I don't think they accept yahoo, gmail, aol.....any of the big generic type email accounts. It's a useful source for information and like any marque dedicated site just try not to drink too much kool-aid.
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I wouldn't bother with FTC, lots of censorship you will never hear the whole story about a particular issue over there. Plus as you have noticed, the Admin is a bit strange.
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Still a good resource if you are looking for facts, figures, distributors, places to get parts etc...
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I wouldn't bother with FTC, lots of censorship you will never hear the whole story about a particular issue over there. Plus as you have noticed, the Admin is a bit strange.


Thats because you are one of the few that got banned for being such a negative and insulting poster.......I think everyone on there was getting tired of your insults anyways, so it all worked out
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I recently purchased a 1988 Shamrock 26' Stalker, this question may be a bit out of proportion but wondering if anyone has insight into joining the fishtheclassic forum. I attempted to join for the first time and it said my email is banned, this is the first time visiting the site ever. I used my secondary email address and same note, email banned. I have sent a half dozen emails to the forum administrator with no response. I love using "The Hull Truth" and will continue to do so I just thought it would be interesting to join the fishtheclassic forum also, joining it seems to be the interesting part. Any help is greatly appreciated and I will post photos of the Shamrock 26 Stalker upon delivery. Have a great day!

PM me your email and I will forward it to Kurt or Galvin and have them email you, so that you can sign up. The site has gotten attacked/spammed several times in the past, so your email may be getting snared in all of that
That site for any Shamrock owner is an incredible source of useful information, you will lear a tremendous amount about your new boat from the guys over there. BTW congratulations on your new boat!!
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Old 04-23-2010, 06:40 PM
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Showing Shamrock problems with photos is insulting to the brand, your right- that is why I was banned. The truth hurts!
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:12 PM
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Love my Shamrock; real boats have inboards...

Fish the Classic seems fine as well. I've seen plenty of posts not favorable to Shamrock's, but realistic problems shared and discussed. ALL brands have problems, big deal. Folks that try to convince other folks that their boat is crap also have problems...
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Yep, just don't question the design of a Shamrock over there (especially a 22' as that is what Gavin has), that is why I was banned.
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Gavin:

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john was deleted after his "assumption" post that the 22' hull had "failures". I and MANY others here beg to differ."

Sounds like a great website and a great reason to delete a member. I am sure there is nothing but glowing reviews there because they delete the negatives..... Keep this in mind!
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I got banned. Sure I fueled the fire. Some over there think any shamrock is the best boat ever built. Point out obvious flaws and you get attacked. So I counter attacked and got banned. My son tried tried to join and he got banned. He and Gavin traded some rather interesting emails.
Pascoe did a survey on a 26 shamrock. Some of the attacks were just pitiful. The boat had many problems and lots of folks at FTC did not want to hear and see the truth.
IF you get signed up just don't drink the cool-aid when offered. In other words be your own man and tell the cool-aid drinkers to pi$$-off.
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As a side note since I seem to have created a stir, I fished on my cousins' 1987 Shamrock 26' Stalker for thirteen seasons in a row. In each of the seasons we logged no less than 500 hours on the Shamrock fishing offshore in the Gulf of Mexico out of Louisiana. During those seasons we never lost one hour due to any issue with the vessel and I assure you it wasn't flat calm every day.

Hurricane Katrina sank the boat after ripping it from a bunk hoist, it was picked up, cleaned up, all systems checked from bow to stern without one issue. Of course it was repowered and now has fished four more 500 plus hour seasons since Katrina in August '05. This year the vessel will be on around it's 20th season with my cousin still owning it and will log another 500 hours worth of fishing. He purchased this vessel for $22,500 in 1989, I can tell you it has been simply amazing what this Shamrock has accomplished in fishing and longevity. I finally found a 1988 Shamrock 26 Stalker this month and look forward to years of great fishing!
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PM me your email and I will forward it to Kurt or Galvin and have them email you, so that you can sign up. The site has gotten attacked/spammed several times in the past, so your email may be getting snared in all of that
That site for any Shamrock owner is an incredible source of useful information, you will lear a tremendous amount about your new boat from the guys over there. BTW congratulations on your new boat!!

Thank you Mostawhala, I sent an email because it said not accepting private messages. My personal email is: jbg883@hotmail.com, I appreciate your forwarding my email as I look forward to joining the forum. Have a great day!

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Old 04-27-2010, 09:53 AM
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Holy Mackerel you'll enjoy Fish The Classic it's not only a great resource of information for maintenance but a great bunch of guys glad to give honest opinions and solid advice. If you are into DIY for maintenance and improvements, FTC can be addictive.
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Congrats on the new Shammie! I had trouble gaining access at first as well but I just followed up with several polite emails and was finally accepted with my personal email account. It's a great site, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
I've been in between purchasing a 22' wa or stalker and the 26' stalker... And most of the other Shamrocks also. Hard to pick just one. Good to hear the success of your cousin's boat. Please post some pics of yours when you can.
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Holy-Mackerl

I had the same boat at one time (although a 1991). Spray rails will really help you.

As far as the comments on FTC.net. Most of the members there will give you very good advice. When someone starts to take pot shots and personnal attacts on people that is when banning comes into play. Usually it's after several "warnings" about sticking to the facts/topic of discussion.

I no longer own a Shamrock, but find myself on that sight for insight and advise on my current inboard and overall boating issues. That site is on of the best.
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Gavin:

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john was deleted after his "assumption" post that the 22' hull had "failures". I and MANY others here beg to differ."

Sounds like a great website and a great reason to delete a member. I am sure there is nothing but glowing reviews there because they delete the negatives..... Keep this in mind!

I have been an FTC member and Shammie owner (26 cutty) for over a year. I have found the member to be pretty fair in the negatives. The Shamrock brand, like most all boat brands, car manufactures, etc., have had some issues over the years. Some years/model good, others not so good.

For example, I have seen a Mako in Port Canaveral literally split open. I have also seen a major flaw in a Key West, both almost caused a sinking. I have also see a Carolina, Sailfish, Parker, and Dakota with severe issues. Check around and you will see lots of Pursuits with issues as well.

The Pascoe article is a little bizarre as it focuses on a 10 year old poorly maintained example. But everything he says is pretty much true, which is mainly the spark plug acccess sucks, the tanks are a bit too small for a gasser (though there was a third tank option), and the scuppers are too low. The spark plugs CAN be changed without pulling the motor, just use an open end wrench and pull the alternator. The scupper issue can generally be solved with the ping-pong ball setup. Once can easily modify the scupper thing also and move it up an inch. Beliece me, there is some stupid stuff design wise, but then again, I have seen some stupid stuff on my two wellcrafts, and my parker design wise. Parker is a high end boat, and they did some stupid stuff on my '94. Oh yeah, spray rails would be nice, I went with eisenglass instead.

I have "heard" that there were some bad years in the 2000's for shammies, but I can not confirm.

All I can say is I have seen a fair exchange of information on the site, even the most negative stuff. One hull with a crack on the keel was reported. But I think that boat was dropped.

As they say, presentation is everything.
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The bad years began in the early 70's and continued until 2009 when they went out of business.
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The bad years began in the early 70's and continued until 2009 when they went out of business.

It's no wonder you were ejected from the site. You obviously do not really know the brand and are blinded by your own unforunate experieces.

My '93 26', while having some admitted design flaws, has held up well, and is an awesome seaworthy boat.

Ever wonder why tow companies use so many of them? Of why so many commercial fishers use them? Or why they are refered to the "Pocket Sportfisher"? They are good on gas, and "strong hulls".

I wonder why my commercial charter insurance did not require a survey on a 16 yr old boat, from the agent, "we will write Shamrocks all day long"....
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The name of my Shamrock was "Slow and thirsty" I had to switch to the second 40gal fuel tank when we stopped to fish 30 miles out.
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