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Old 07-28-2004, 10:41 PM
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Hello everyone. My name is Eric and I am from California. I just stumbled on this website last week while searching for Maycraft boats. This is an amazing site for boating information. I have searched the archives for Maycraft boats and already found some good info. I still have a few more questions.

Does anybody have one of these that I can talk to?

I am considering this boat with either a Yamaha 115 4 stroke or a Suzuki 140 4 stroke? I have a 2000 Suzuki 40 now and had a problem getting something fixed under warranty. When I talked to customer service and said that Honda and Yamaha probably would have fixed it I was told maybe you should buy a different brand motor. So I figured my next boat might be the time to do that.

Does anybody have actual performance specs with these engines? Is the 115 going to be underpowered?

How do these boats compare in size to a Parker 1801? I've never seen a Maycraft in person as there are no dealers in Ca any more, but I have seen a Parker and was impressed by how big it was for an 18'. At least compared to my current Crestliner Angler.

Anybody have any other comments they might like to throw in?

Thanks for reading this
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I fish a lot out of a freinds with the Bombadier/Suzuki 115 4 stroke. The motor is adequate, not underpowered, not real fast either. It tries to break the 40 MPH mark with 3 people. The boat does not want to plane under 4000 rpm, it's a heavy boat. A lot of guys on this board solved that with trim tabs. You may want to consider the same.

Lots of room for a 19', fishes 3 comfortably, you can squeeze the 4th guy on once in a while.

Great value for the money. Price out that Parker...
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Old 07-29-2004, 10:23 AM
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Thanks for the reply.

I priced out the Parker and it's another $6000 more. I liked it but thats a little out of my price range and believe it or not I liked the deck layout of the Maycraft better. It's got a casting deck which is sunken and would be perfect for fishing the saltwater bass out here with a trolling motor.

Anybody else have comments.

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Eric,

I am in San Diego and looked hard at Maycraft during the brief existence of a dealer here. Where would you buy the boat? I looked at the 19 and 20, and preferred the 20. The advantage to me in the 20, was the cockpit depth and the deck continuing towards the bow between the front boxes. That way, if it is snotty you can operate in the bow without being on a raised deck. The advantage of the 19 was that it would do well with a Suzuki/Johnson 140 HP while a 20 might be underpowered if you loaded it up. There are a ton of other boats that are comparable. Don't know how many you have considered. Some that I liked are:
KenCraft
McKee
Steiger Craft
Maritime
Dusky
Blue Fin
Sea Hunt
Jones Brothers
CHawk
Also Pacific and half a dozen other quality Aluminum plate builders
And certainly nothing wrong with Parker

Most of these are the same or slightly more money than the Maycraft. I was concerned about the warranty service from a builder that did not have much of a presence in California. I have put the search on hold while I finish some house remodeling. Let me know if there is any info I can help with. I take it from your user name that you fish the breakwater?

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Old 07-30-2004, 12:51 PM
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I'm about to order the 1900 Maycraft. It will only have a 115hp Yamaha 2- stroke, I just can't justify the $2000.00 + price in a 4-stroke. The carbed 2-stroke engines have been around longer than I have been alive. Mine will cost $15,810.00 out the door. I can't find a better deal. The one thing I don't like is, it dosn't come with anything on the console but a fuel guage. No tach, speed, trim, volt, etc. I think I will order tomorrow!!!..I hope I'm not making a mistake!!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-30-2004, 09:27 PM
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Yes I have looked at some other boats, but most want 1000's more than I have (I'm only 23 yrs old) and come with alot of stuff I don't want. I like the Kencrafts, but they are a bit pricey for me and I think I like the deck layout better on the Maycraft. The Maycraft has a real simple deck and is very reasonably priced. As for the casting deck that is what I really like. I fish the federal break wall as well as the local kelp beds for calico bass with a bow mounted trolling motor so that would be ideal. I would only fish the Catalina, the Coronados, and possibly Clemente and the inner banks only on good days in wide open yellow or tuna bites.
I think I'm looking at $17,500 with a 115 Yamaha four stroke and an aluminum trailer. I don't know the prices of all the boats you listed, but assume they are rather pricey when compared to this ($25,000 for the Parker). As for where I would get it would be out on the east coast, probably BayRacer Marine or Ed's Superstore. I would probably drive out there unless I could get it shipped for <$1000. As for servicing I would think that the only thing that needed servicing would be the motor and assume Maycraft would probably reimburse for work done to the boat if necessary.

matt lagana
Where are you purchasing your boat from? There probably wasn't any gauges on the console because it didn't have a motor installed. Different motors come with different gauges. I could be wrong.

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Do you know the gas mileage you get in your friends boat? I plan to use the boat alot and might be able to justify the 4 stroke price depending on gas mileage. Gas in CA is over $2 a gallon.

Thanks again everybody
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The one thing I don't like is, it dosn't come with anything on the console but a fuel guage. No tach, speed, trim, volt, etc. I think I will order tomorrow!!!..I hope I'm not making a mistake!!!!!!!!!
Matt,

I think I saw THE boat you're buying at Ed's last Saturday - in the SHOWROOM? As WallsOut said, since there's no motor on it yet (there wasn't on the one I saw in the showroom), the gauges will be added when the Yama is rigged on the boat. You should get ALL the "standard" gauges (digital, I assume?) that Yama provides with the 115/4-stroke - don't accept LESS!

VERY nice boat - I'm still a little skeptical about the 115 on there, but I know you have to draw the line on $'s somewhere!

Good luck and let us know when you get it home!

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Old 07-31-2004, 02:19 PM
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I've looked at the Maycraft 19, 20, and 23. They are well built boats with simple layouts and pretty good storage for their size. There are lots of them in commercial service. Hardware is good, and fit/finish is good. The very few things that bugged me are there did not appear to be backing plates on the cleats (I looked for them on the 23, did not check the 19), but they could have been glassed in and not visible. I thought the wiring could have been better, but that's true on many boats. The standard cooler seat is...well, it's a cooler seat, but that could be upgraded later on. Of the 3, the 19 has the sharpest bow entry by far, which should help improve the ride, and it definitely gives the boat handsome looks. My understanding is Maycraft will build with a white hull if you order one, the standard color is a light tan. One of the dealers you mentioned has an unsatisfactory record at bbb.org.

While 4-stroke motors are great, many of the hulls currently on the market were designed years ago with the much lighter 2-stroke motors in mind. Before I committed to a 4-stroke, I would call the manufacturer and see if the added weight of the 4-stroke is of any concern, or if it would dictate the addition of trim tabs to keep the bow down.

Another boat you should consider is the Dusky 19. While it's also a 19, it's a lot more boat because it has the "Dusky Drive" bracket/swim platform that gets the motor out of the cockpit, opening up a lot of space. It comes with a lot more standard; Leaning Post, Hydraulic steering, fuel filter, automatic bilge pump, live bait well, and more. Even a galvanized trailer is standard. The Dusky is very well built. It has a much deeper "V" than the Maycraft for a better ride in rougher water (20 degrees at the transom vs. about 13 degrees for the Maycraft). Dusky sells factory direct only, and lists prices on their web site. The 19 with a carbed Mercury 125 is $18,800, with a 4-stroke 115 Suzuki , Mercury, or Johnson it's $19,400 , and a 4-stroke 140 comes in at $20,200; all including trailer. That's a very good deal, if you stay away from adding more options. Good luck in your search!
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:21 PM
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I am buying a Ed's. I talked to them again today, and I opted for the 2003 115hp Johnson 4-stroke. $2000.00 more. I still have to pay Xtra for the tach and stuff. They tell me if I buy a motor it dosnt come with the controls and guages. I feel as though im getting a good price. I will add the other stuff i need along the way.
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Old 07-31-2004, 03:43 PM
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Eric,
I spoke to someone at Maycraft concerning the reimbursement for warranty work if needed on the hull. They said that they would OK with having a builder in CA do the work and they would cover the cost. I would, however, double check that before I purchased.

I was quoted $2-3000 to deliver a boat to CA from the East Coast. I would probably be almost $1000 in fuel round trip for you. Price for a Parker 18 w/115HP Yamaha stroke and tandem trailer should be more like $23-24,000. If you add say, $750 to upgrade to a tandem trailer and $1000 in fuel to get the Maycraft out here you will still be saving $3-4000 over the Parker. Of the other brands I mentioned, probably only CHawk would have as low a price and I am not sure of their situation since they shut down their web site. You could get a Dusky 17 for a couple thousand less than the Maycraft but it is quite a bit less boat and the Dusky 19 would be almost as much as the Parker.

I would suggest that you definately get a tandem trailer as I am assuming that the price you are being quoted on the Maycraft is for a single axle. The weight is no problem for the single axle, but the safety and stability especially going cross country or in Baja are well worth the cost of a tandem trailer. I would consider two other options for your motor. At Ed's the Suzuki/Johnson 140HP is $200 more and the Suzuki/Johnson 115HP is $1000 less than the Yamaha 115HP. I would get the 140HP as I sometimes stay on my boat for a night or two in Baja and the weight of all the fuel, ice chests, gear and provisions for 2-3 people can add up. For lighter loads I would think 115HP would be fine as the Parker 18 weighs a hair more than the Maycraft 18. I understand that you had an incident with one of their representitives, but you will find that Suzukis have just as good a reputation as Honda or Yamaha.

Good luck,
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Old 08-01-2004, 06:33 PM
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Thanks again for everyone's replies. I just got done checking out all the boats on the list above and still don't like any of them better than the Maycraft. The only boat I think looks better is the Parker and I think the Maycraft is really similar in looks. I like the Maycraft the best in terms of deck layout. Alot of the boats were very nice and would be better than the Maycraft if I wanted a boat for fishing live bait on the anchor, but since I'm going to be running and gunning with the trolling motor and plastics I think the Maycraft suites me best.

matt lagana - what are you paying for you Maycraft if you don't mind me asking. It seems like there was going to be alot of hidden costs with Ed's when I talked to them. How are you going to control the throttle without a control box, which will probably put another 400 on that price. Plus the trailer is only rated for 2000 lbs and the boat is 1900. WHen I brought this to the sales ladies attention she told me that there was 20% leeway on that. Which would make it a 2400 lb trailer. Motor is probably 400 lbs and 58 gallons of gas is 348 lbs, so without gear your looking at 2648 lbs. If you get it or got it could you email me please (eajohnson1980@yahoo.com)? I'd like to ask you some more questions and find out how happy you are with it and gas mileage and top end.

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Just food for thought...if you are like most of us who are just getting into boating...you'll soon realize the boat you are purchasing right now might not really fit your needs...especially if, being young..2' titis will set in and you'll want to move up a notch or two in a few years...what will the Maycraft be worth vs the Parker in 3 or 4 years when you decide it's time? Which one might be easier to sell at that time? That extra $3K you're saving now might be lost in resale...length of time to sell your boat, etc...Parkers have been building great boats for a long time now and have a good reputation...Maycraft is just getting started...

One other thing you might want to consider before you take the plunge...have you thought about a used boat, say 2-4 years old? Many people get into boating and never really "get into it"...then decide to sell their boats for much less than new but with only a hundred or so hours on them...you might be able to move up to the next tier, boat wise, if you go with a slightly used boat...just have it surveys prior to taking delivery...that way, once you want to move up...the depreciation hit has already been taken by the original owner...

Lastly, its your boat...do what you think is best and enjoy...you won't regret it!

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As for 2footitis it has already struck 3 times so far. I started at age 17 with a 12' Valco, than 2 years later I got a 15' Gregor, then I'm where I'm at with a 2001 16.5' Crestliner Angler which I bought new in December 2000. And there's nothing like that new boat smell . This next boat is going to be my last boat, lol. No all kidding aside this is the biggest boat that I think I could put a bow mount trolling motor on. If I ever move up it will be to something with a cuddy and or cabin for tuna, but I don't ever see myself making the kinda money that would be required to run a boat like that and still be able to fish as much as I do. And I if I ever do make that kinda money, I might as well keep the Maycraft because the $8000-9000 I'll be able to get for it when it's time to sell would be negligble.

Also just because they're the new kids on the block doesn't mean they're no good. A long time ago Parker and Boston Waler were also new kids on the block.

Another side note is that the reason I found out about the Maycraft is that the few people over here on the West Coast that have them rave about them. And in fact one guy posted this in response to some of my Maycraft questions on another message board:
"Parkers are great boats and I love those 18 Parkers, but the Maycraft has a much different hull and a far superior ride IMHO.

I've fished both: Norms 18 Parker just beat my knees to death. He actually ended up getting knee surgery because of it. The Maycraft is a much smoother ride do to it's sharper entry, and the fact it flex's more then the Parker. Parkers are great boats but very stiff. When they pound all the energy goes right to your knees."

As for resale your absolutely right a Parker will sell faster and for more. When I was explaining them to my girlfriend I said well they're like the Mercedes of boats. I found a good deal on one a 2003 brand new a week ago for $16995 and I was very close to buying it. I figured worst case I could use it for awhile and if I was unhappy with it I could sell it for at least what I paid. The more I thought about it the more I second questioned myself: well it doesn't have a casting deck, there's probably 3 dozen 18 Parker owners in So Cal (I want my boat to stand out on the water not just be another face in the crowd), and so on. I just couldn't do it.

Thanks for the input, all valid ideas.

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Eric,
Sounds like you are pretty well set on the Maycraft. I sure liked them. Remember that like with cars, you don't care what the percentage loss you take on your used boat is. You care about the dollar amount. I have to keep from rolling my eyes when I hear Mercedes owners brag about how their $80,000 Mercedes only lost 20% of it's value. That's still $16,000 and the same year Toyota or Honda probably lost half that.
I don't want to sound like your Dad( although unfortunately I am old enough to be), but think hard about that trailer. I was thinking that if you went with the Suzuki 115HP you could put that savings towards an adequate trailer and gas money for hauling the rig out here. Even if you don't get a tandem, which I would highly recommend, be sure you get a single axle with sufficient capacity. Some trailers such as Pacific Trailers out here are rated By GVW, so you have to deduct the weight of the trailer itself to determine the capacity. Don't forget that in addition to what you mentioned you will have the additional weight of 2-3 batteries, anchors, ice chests(full of calicos), misc. gear, tools, etc. The 20% margin that the salesperson spoke of generally is applied in the other direction. You don't want a trailer that is so stiff it beats your boat, but most people want to be well within the capacity limit. I would guess that you would need about 3000-3200# capacity.
Like the last poster, I agree it is your boat and you have to sift through the opinions and come to your own conclusion.
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Sounds like you've already made your decision...the only think left is to go out and do it...go have fun...there are only so many weekends in a summer and we're already into august! Go for it and don't look back...you won't regret it!

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