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Old 04-14-2010, 06:22 PM
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Default Panga vs bayboat for offshore

Greetings all,

I am going to purchase a boat in the next month or two. I fish in SW Florida and have owned primarily flats boats thus far. Lately I have had the itch for offshore bottom fishing, however I am reluctant to give up my ability to fish the shallows. My budget dictates only one boat.

My thought is my use will be usually inshore but with fairly frequent trips out to about 25 miles weather permitting. I originally was thinking a 22ft bayboat would work, but as of late I have been considering a Panga. I like the thought of a globally proven design for shallow water with offshore ability as well.

I was hoping to get some opinions on this, Panga vs bayboat, both 22ft range. Most likely late model used price range of 25K. Which would be best suited for this??? Which manufacturers should I look at? Thanks to all in advance.

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Panga will be better in my opinion. Plus if you are only going out on calm days you can get one with a flat bottom so you can really get in the flats.
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How about a power catamaran? 22' and under typically draft 12" or less (hull only).
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:42 PM
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I would get the bay boat.

The bay boat is faster, most likely, so a run out 25 miles will be much shorter. If a storm did blow up you could try and out run it. Also fishability (inshore), a bay boat will beat out a panga. have you looked into trolling motor mounts for the bow of a panga? might want to think about that too.
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Pangas are the beast do it all boats you can get.

I teach kitesurfing in Cape Hatteras on the flats, 1-2 ft of water and can run in 8in of water. ( jack plate is A MUST).



Then on my time of, I go offshore 30 miles for blue, yellow, black fin tuna, marlin, bottom fishing, you name it. If the seas pick up you will be in fine in A panga, bay boat I would be darn wright scared.

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I have a 22ft pangamarine marquesas....been out 81 miles, (really), on calm days...it is more capable than most bay boats, easy to tow and gets about 4 mpg...any kind of chop over 2ft and you are going "panga speed"....18-20 mph...trim tabs are a must, an outboard tail also helps....3 builders all make decent boats, angler, pangamarine and andros....some can get pretty pricey...
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If your back is strong, go for Panga. You are much safer.
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I sure like my Andros. Give Andy (one of the owners) a call and he will take you out any time
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Panga over bay boat IMO. I had a 20' bayboat that I hated every time I went offshore. PangaMarine makes only pangas that are pure fishing and not all decked out..if cost is a factor then check them out

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How about a power catamaran? 22' and under typically draft 12" or less (hull only).
Did you take note of his price range?
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Good info so far all thanks.
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I was trolling for king offshore about ~30 miles in a moderate 2-3' sea. And I see 4 divers cruising back to shore in a 18'!!! Panga with a 75Suzuki!!! I was amazed....how good it rode. It's not like I was on it but they seemed OK cruising back at 20mph
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I was trolling for king offshore about ~30 miles in a moderate 2-3' sea. And I see 4 divers cruising back to shore in a 18'!!! Panga with a 75Suzuki!!! I was amazed....how good it rode. It's not like I was on it but they seemed OK cruising back at 20mph
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Several years ago I saw a video of an actual chase. USCG 44 footer trying to catch a drug runner in a Mexican Panga. They were running wide open head into 4-6ft seas right outside Port Isabel Texas. USCG was not able to keep up with him before he got into Mexican waters. I was totally impressed with its ability to run like that in those conditions. I would definatly feel safe in one offshore...I even considered getting one after seeing the video my USCG buddy had. The panga has my vote!!
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If you're fishing primarily inshore, go with the bay boat. I've been on Pangas several times primarily scuba diving in the Caribbean. They are pretty cool offshore. We were out in 6-8 foot seas and I never felt unsafe. I'm also always amazed how little power they need. But, I didn't care for the layout especially in the front deck for fishing. And they always seem to have a narrow beam. No big deal for scuba diving, but fishing is a different story. I've always preferred my bay boat for fishing...and it's not like you would plan to go offshore in heavy seas in either boat anyway.
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If you're fishing primarily inshore, go with the bay boat. I've been on Pangas several times primarily scuba diving in the Caribbean. They are pretty cool offshore. We were out in 6-8 foot seas and I never felt unsafe. I'm also always amazed how little power they need. But, I didn't care for the layout especially in the front deck for fishing. And they always seem to have a narrow beam. No big deal for scuba diving, but fishing is a different story. I've always preferred my bay boat for fishing...and it's not like you would plan to go offshore in heavy seas in either boat anyway.

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All good points. However, for offshore fishing I will have two buddies and me max so I think the room will be OK, especially if I really tick off the wife and buy the 26 footer. Inshore I primarily will be wade fishing with bait. If I go with Panga marine it will be a marquesas model, with Angler most likely the 22 but maybe the 26. Budget will dictate.

I think Panga marine in Sarasota builds the better boat. I also think the company and its people are very reputable. . Andros may be better but too much $ for what I can afford. Still need to ride in one. Thanks again to all
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Scott, I live in the same area as you. Keep your flats boat and buy a older used offshore boat. I sold my Pathfinder last year. To do just what I said above. I went from a flats boat to the bay boat and got hooked on offshore fishing. In are area you really need two boats. The inshore fishing is soo good and the offshore fishing is really good as well. The problem is, you have to go pretty far out to get into some great offshore fishing. The bay boat/panga style boat will just tease you and than you will want something bigger to go further out. Than the winds blow and the water disappears and you will have the itch to go skinny water fishing again. My babbling is from experience and wish I would have done this a long time ago. I just bought a 18 flats boat and I am going to save like crazy for the next year or so to buy the offshore boat. This is just my opinion for are area, take it with a grain of salt but if you are dead set on 1 boat to do everything it would be a 22 Pathfinder/Shearwater to keep in your price range, IMHO. Good Luck with your search.
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There's a sweet Action Craft bay boat for sale in the classifieds section. It will do everything you describe. But if you can swing a 26ft Panga, I would go with that.
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The 26' panga would be great if you could swing it. I've been in them from around 22' to 28' and was always impressed with the ride. Who knows, you may end up wanting to go offshore more often than not. I fish both inshore and offshore (Texas Gulf Coast) and love both, but with two different boats. I used to only have the 24' Triton bay boat and I could easily go 40-50 miles out on a good day, but having only one engine started playing with my head. Never had any problems, but justified more safety and redundancy for getting the Pursuit. Love them both so I'll keep both....for now.
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