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Old 03-12-2010, 02:11 PM
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After reading through some of these threads, I have seen a lot of questions by users in regards to when to use BayStar and when to use SeaStar. I will try and clear up any confusion for the users here...

To start. The BayStar system is for "boats" rated to 150HP. The key word here is "boats". If you have a boat where the horse power rating exceeds 150HP, then BayStar is not an option for you. This is not saying that it won't mount, but, I would hate for someone to spend the money on the BayStar, only to find that if they re-power to a higher horse power, EVERYTHING needs to be changed to SeaStar.

BayStar and Bass Boats = NO. Again, BayStar will mount, however it is not designed to handle the larger loads that are seen on the bass boats. For bass boats, stick with SeaStar PRO, the system was designed with the Bass Boat in mind. The unique valving allows for precise control, and the Kevlar Hose limits expansion, thus adding to the precise control that the bass boater wants.

BayStar and Commercial boats = Maybe!. Depends on the application. The BayStar "will be" heavier to turn than the SeaStar, considering this fact, if the driver of the application is going to be turning that wheel for 8 hours everyday, it is probably a better choice to go with SeaStar, at least the driver's arms will thank you.

BayStar, as the name implies, is designed for use on the lower horse engines, that just run about in the bay on the weekend, this is the perfect fit for the BayStar system.

If this doesn't clear things up, or, makes it even more confusing, drop us an email at the address shown in our signature, we will be more than happy to assist..

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Old 03-13-2010, 08:10 PM
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What "should" a dealer/factory be charging to upgrade the steering system from Bay to Sea? is it fair to look at web "retail" prices for the two kits, and assume that difference would be the high end of the upcharge, or is there significant additional labor involved, which would understandably make the upcharge more than just the difference in kit prices?

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I want to put hydrualic steering on my little tunnel hull. It currently has singel cable steering. The engine is a 130hp Yamaha 2-stroke. I want to keep things as light as possible. The Baystar system is rated for my horsepower but I exceed the maximum speed rating. That being said, my boat weighs 900 pounds fully loaded. The steering with the cable system is very easy and light. I can drive with one hand at wide open without trouble. Is the speed rating on the Baystar system more of a load issue on the components? My boat steers much easier than something like a bass boat and being a cat, chine walking is not an issue.
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If this doesn't clear things up, or, makes it even more confusing, drop us an email at the address shown in our signature, we will be more than happy to assist..

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Marc,
There is no email address in your signature.
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What "should" a dealer/factory be charging to upgrade the steering system from Bay to Sea? is it fair to look at web "retail" prices for the two kits, and assume that difference would be the high end of the upcharge, or is there significant additional labor involved, which would understandably make the upcharge more than just the difference in kit prices?

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There should be NO difference in labor costs to install. The two systems are identical in regards to installing (basically, SeaStar is BayStar on steroids..)

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What "should" a dealer/factory be charging to upgrade the steering system from Bay to Sea? is it fair to look at web "retail" prices for the two kits, and assume that difference would be the high end of the upcharge, or is there significant additional labor involved, which would understandably make the upcharge more than just the difference in kit prices?

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[quote=Mr. Demeanor;2849049]I want to put hydrualic steering on my little tunnel hull. It currently has singel cable steering. The engine is a 130hp Yamaha 2-stroke. I want to keep things as light as possible. The Baystar system is rated for my horsepower but I exceed the maximum speed rating. That being said, my boat weighs 900 pounds fully loaded. The steering with the cable system is very easy and light. I can drive with one hand at wide open without trouble. Is the speed rating on the Baystar system more of a load issue on the components? My boat steers much easier than something like a bass boat and being a cat, chine walking is not an issue.
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If your speeds are under 60 mp/h, then go with BayStar, if over, go with SeaStar (no need for SeaStar PRO), thanks for the pic, makes answering easy
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Im over 60
My steering propbably sees much less stress at higher speeds than a heavy center console at 50mph. How do you come up with the speed rating?
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My steering propbably sees much less stress at higher speeds than a heavy center console at 50mph. How do you come up with the speed rating?
in most cases, speeds that are over 60 mp/h, on a single engine, 150HP max outboard are seen on a bass boat. Considering that the BayStar helm does not have the same valving as the SeaStar PRO, we lean away from suggesting BayStar on these boats.

It is not that the BayStar won't turn the boat left and right, the SeaStar PRO just does it with less effort, and more precise control

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