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Old 03-05-2010, 11:38 PM
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I got my light,and had a mounting bracket made and wanting to mount my spotlight on top of the bow rail. I never really looked at the bow rails,and seen they actually go through the hull. I didnt go climbing in and tear stuff apart to see how they work,but im assuming you cant run wires through them?
The boat is new to me,so if you have any idea how I can mount my light on top of there without seeing the wires please let me know.

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Your moniker name should help with this one
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It might be possible, but probably not from the forward upright shown on the image.

The construction appears to be that the long fore/aft horizontal tubes pass through welded assemblies for the upright tubes w/ tee fittings on top and flanges on the bottom.

What wasn't clear to me from the images was if all the uprights are retained to the horizontal tubes w/ rivets, like those used at the bow vee fitting.

For your modification it would be best if the only rivets are at the bow.

If so, you should be able to snake all the way from the aft end of the horizontal tube to the bow, assuming there aren't any obstructions not shown in the images provided.

You might request detail drawings for that railing assembly from Searay to better understand the construction to see if your project will work.

The concern I would have is weakening the railing by adding a hole. My guess is it would be best to add that to the bottom near the bow vee fitting.

The other concern is the hole creates a point that permits water intrusion. That concern could be minimized w/ sealant.

It does not look like an easy mod. You might be able to blow a pull line through the rail to help the process.
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My Glastron had the spotlight wires run through the bow rail.



You will have to check your boat to see if it can be done.
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There are no guarantee's.

MFG's that offer the spotlight option from the factory usually have the wire chase thru the rails built that way.

If they don't offer it as an option, it probably isn't.

From the looks of your pictures, yours probably isn't, but might be possible with a little work.

I would start by opening up the interior to access the mounting bolts of the rail base. Unbolt it from the inside to determine if the base plate is solid or if there is a hole. If it is solid (and it looks like it probably is), you will need to drill an access hole in it as well as the fiberglass. That will be your entry for the wire.

Next, you'll have to disconnect the bow "V" portion of the railing that connects the two ends. It looks like it is riveted on. That makes it easier.

With the "V" portion removed, you might be able to slide the upright stanchion back or forth to access the portion of the rail that is supported by the upright. Drill an access hole thru the bottom of the railing that will match up when it is put back together. Now drill a hole at the bow portion of the railing to run your line to the spotlight assembly.

Now you should be able to snake a line thru . Be sure and use a wire loom to protect from chafing. A 1/4" loom should work fine and still be able to be snaked thru the rail.

You will need a platform to mount the spot on. You can either have someone fabricate on for you or make one up out of starboard material that can be attached to the railing at the bow. You can bolt the platform to the rail by drilling and using SS bolts. Use acorn nuts for a nice (and non-snagging)finish.

Run the wire from the interior of the rail base to your helm and mount the switch.

Dry fit everything and check for the proper power connections and operation of the spot before you re-attach everything and seal it back up.

If you have the time, it's a nice DIY project. It will be worth the effort when you are done. I've seen some okie installations of remote spotlights where people didn't want to go thru the steps to do it right. They didn't look so well...

Good luck!
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Well I was in there looking around today,It seems the uprights are solid "well maybe not solid throughout" but what I mean is at the ends up the uprights there is a bolt attached to the end of the upright that goes through the hull/deck area and has a nut on the inside. But I might have a shot,I think the part that starts it off near the helm,Its also like that but has no upright its just a angle piece and the actuall bow rail goes into it.
Im pretty sure the bow rail is just held by grub screw all the way down,so no screws should be in the way if I try to run wires down them. So only option I see is to remove the angled rail base "make sure it is clear all the way down" Then replace the current rail base with the bolt through the hull,to a rail base where it has the 3 holes and just screw it into the deck and run the wires through it all.
I'll find out for sure if that is how it works in a few but if anyone has any thoughts or ideas on this let me know
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Plan B:

Mount the spotlight near the forward end of the bow pulpit.

Access the interior anchor locker area for the wiring hole location and go from there.

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if you can snake it, run it !
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It might be possible, but probably not from the forward upright shown on the image.

The construction appears to be that the long fore/aft horizontal tubes pass through welded assemblies for the upright tubes w/ tee fittings on top and flanges on the bottom.

What wasn't clear to me from the images was if all the uprights are retained to the horizontal tubes w/ rivets, like those used at the bow vee fitting.

For your modification it would be best if the only rivets are at the bow.

If so, you should be able to snake all the way from the aft end of the horizontal tube to the bow, assuming there aren't any obstructions not shown in the images provided.

You might request detail drawings for that railing assembly from Searay to better understand the construction to see if your project will work.

The concern I would have is weakening the railing by adding a hole. My guess is it would be best to add that to the bottom near the bow vee fitting.

The other concern is the hole creates a point that permits water intrusion. That concern could be minimized w/ sealant.

It does not look like an easy mod. You might be able to blow a pull line through the rail to help the process.
Any luck determining if the wire may be run from the aft end of the rail tube to the bow?
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It might be possible, but probably not from the forward upright shown on the image.

The construction appears to be that the long fore/aft horizontal tubes pass through welded assemblies for the upright tubes w/ tee fittings on top and flanges on the bottom.

What wasn't clear to me from the images was if all the uprights are retained to the horizontal tubes w/ rivets, like those used at the bow vee fitting.

For your modification it would be best if the only rivets are at the bow.

If so, you should be able to snake all the way from the aft end of the horizontal tube to the bow, assuming there aren't any obstructions not shown in the images provided.

You might request detail drawings for that railing assembly from Searay to better understand the construction to see if your project will work.

The concern I would have is weakening the railing by adding a hole. My guess is it would be best to add that to the bottom near the bow vee fitting.

The other concern is the hole creates a point that permits water intrusion. That concern could be minimized w/ sealant.

It does not look like an easy mod. You might be able to blow a pull line through the rail to help the process.
Any luck determining if the wire may be run from the aft end of the rail tube to the bow?
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It might be possible, but probably not from the forward upright shown on the image.

The construction appears to be that the long fore/aft horizontal tubes pass through welded assemblies for the upright tubes w/ tee fittings on top and flanges on the bottom.

What wasn't clear to me from the images was if all the uprights are retained to the horizontal tubes w/ rivets, like those used at the bow vee fitting.

For your modification it would be best if the only rivets are at the bow.

If so, you should be able to snake all the way from the aft end of the horizontal tube to the bow, assuming there aren't any obstructions not shown in the images provided.

You might request detail drawings for that railing assembly from Searay to better understand the construction to see if your project will work.

The concern I would have is weakening the railing by adding a hole. My guess is it would be best to add that to the bottom near the bow vee fitting.

The other concern is the hole creates a point that permits water intrusion. That concern could be minimized w/ sealant.

It does not look like an easy mod. You might be able to blow a pull line through the rail to help the process.
Any luck determining if the wire may be run from the aft end of the rail tube to the bow?
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