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Old 02-20-2010, 01:27 PM
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12 months ago I was about to steal a 2007 Polar 27 with twin zuki 300's for less than 45K, I called the factory and a nice lady told me "Used Polars will not be covered under any type of warranty".

I now have a used Cape Horn in my boat stall. Proceed at your own level of comfort/risk.

On that note the Polar 23' is reportedly a very bad riding hull...


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...Your pants should be on fire by now; 1) warranty is still applies for first owners just like any other Warranty. 2) Again with the BS " Reportedly a bad riding hull"; you never owned one and you can't name your source of information, therefore your comment is irrelevant
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Look at resale of a Grady vs Polar then ask the question again.
Yes do that...and right your numbers on a piece of paper and by the time you realize you are spending 40% more upfront for a GW for the same amount of fishing pleasure, dont be foolish, boats are to be enjoyed; you cant buy a boat for the resale value; is silly!
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Grady Whites are notoriuos for transom problems but that doesn't mean they are all bad, have it checked out to find out if its okay. Most 15-20 year old boats are going to give you trouble, it comes with the territory. I bought a ten year old boat and kept it 10 years, just about every trip there was something I had to address. Electrical issues were the most common problem along with fuel tank/line problems and things just coming loose. Try to look for a freshwater boat, freshwater has much less of an impact on the aging of a boat.

Grady Whites are notoriuos for transom problems but that doesn't mean they are all bad, have it checked out to find out if its okay. Most 15-20 year old boats are going to give you trouble, it comes with the territory. I bought a ten year old boat and kept it 10 years, just about every trip there was something I had to address. Electrical issues were the most common problem along with fuel tank/line problems and things just coming loose. Try to look for a freshwater boat, freshwater has much less of an impact on the aging of a boat.
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I am looking for a used 21 ft walkaround. I have looked at several 88 Grady Whites with brackets and without. I am concerned about transom problems I have heard about. Any truth to this ? Are they also for the bracket transoms? I have been looking at ones that I need to re power with new outboards and ones that have older engines that the owners say runs good. I am not sure about 15 - 20 year old engines. I dont want alot of problems. I have also looked at other brands but they didnt look like they were built as well. I want a boat that my kids and I can go on for years to come with a little budget. I live on the Chesapeake bay so I need a boat that will handle the water.
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For the most part agree with bms comments. I did own a Grady that I found out the hard way had a rotten transom. Was a bracketed model; so yes, they definetely earned a reputation for rotten transoms, but there are lots of them out there that have not problems. On another note, finding a good w/a style boat that old, that is a "freshwater" boat will be nearly impossible. W/A boats are, for the most part bought for, and used in the open ocean environment, so don't get your hopes up.
Why do you want such an old boat? It would help to have some idea of your budget and what you primarily want to use the boat for; any overnighting/camping, fishing, watersports, etc.
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Yes do that...and right your numbers on a piece of paper and by the time you realize you are spending 40% more upfront for a GW for the same amount of fishing pleasure, dont be foolish, boats are to be enjoyed; you cant buy a boat for the resale value; is silly!
not so silly if you need to sell your boat or want to sell to move up in todays market. Trust me a Polar is not the same boat as a Grady White. It will not hold its value like a Grady White and will not get as many calls when you try and sell it as a Grady White. Smart buyer think about this before they buy a boat.
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Grady Whites are notoriuos for transom problems but that doesn't mean they are all bad, have it checked out to find out if its okay. Most 15-20 year old boats are going to give you trouble, it comes with the territory. I bought a ten year old boat and kept it 10 years, just about every trip there was something I had to address. Electrical issues were the most common problem along with fuel tank/line problems and things just coming loose. Try to look for a freshwater boat, freshwater has much less of an impact on the aging of a boat.

Grady Whites are notoriuos for transom problems but that doesn't mean they are all bad, have it checked out to find out if its okay. Most 15-20 year old boats are going to give you trouble, it comes with the territory. I bought a ten year old boat and kept it 10 years, just about every trip there was something I had to address. Electrical issues were the most common problem along with fuel tank/line problems and things just coming loose. Try to look for a freshwater boat, freshwater has much less of an impact on the aging of a boat.
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I am looking for a used 21 ft walkaround. I have looked at several 88 Grady Whites with brackets and without. I am concerned about transom problems I have heard about. Any truth to this ? Are they also for the bracket transoms? I have been looking at ones that I need to re power with new outboards and ones that have older engines that the owners say runs good. I am not sure about 15 - 20 year old engines. I dont want alot of problems. I have also looked at other brands but they didnt look like they were built as well. I want a boat that my kids and I can go on for years to come with a little budget. I live on the Chesapeake bay so I need a boat that will handle the water.
lol You are quoting a few people on 10 to 20 year old boats and a guy looking at boats from 1988. How many Polars are for sale that are 20 years old? How much would they be worth? I am not drinking the Grady Kool-Aid, just pointing out some facts. Not many boats in this market sell fast and for top dollar like Grady Whites.
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Fair enough.
Im just being a smart ass though.

I went with the Polar because of the layout and the size of the cabin were just what I was looking for and the price was in the budget. I did have my share if issues with cracking you are correct in saying that , but in the end all was resolved by the manufacturer and I came out a happy man.
I have never really heard of any negatives regarding Sea Hunt so maybe you are correct. I do believe Polar / Renker got their shit together and now make a solid boat. Still not a Grady though
Nah, I think you got WAY more for your money with the Polar over a Grady. Gradys are just waaaaaaaaay overpriced.
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Nah, I think you got WAY more for your money with the Polar over a Grady. Gradys are just waaaaaaaaay overpriced.
like Sea Hunts! (okay I must say that I love Gradys and Sea Hunts and I do like the looks of a Polar!)
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lol You are quoting a few people on 10 to 20 year old boats and a guy looking at boats from 1988. How many Polars are for sale that are 20 years old? How much would they be worth? I am not drinking the Grady Kool-Aid, just pointing out some facts. Not many boats in this market sell fast and for top dollar like Grady Whites.
So you are saying I should buy a Mercedes Benz or a BMW because of the resale value when all I can afford is a Toyota?
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So you are saying I should buy a Mercedes Benz or a BMW because of the resale value when all I can afford is a Toyota?
no where did I say this? Re-Read the last question of the OP 1st post. I am sure if you look hard for a used Grady you can find a good one at a good price that you can afford. You will have to look hard and be ready to buy as a well priced Grady does not last long in any market. If you spend 20k on a used Grady and or 15k on a used Polar and then try and sell both boats after using them for 5 years and have a 15k asking price for the Grady and a 10k asking price for the Polar, I am sure you will get more for the Grady then the Polar and you will be able to sell it much faster or have more buyers or people calling on the Grady then the Polar. I agree that the Grady will cost more, but down the line it will be worth more and easier to sell if need be for what ever reason.
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Resell ValueBoatsOMG, you guys are hilariousAs if a boat is actually some kind of investmentCan't keep reading, too funny!!!!
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Resell ValueBoatsOMG, you guys are hilariousAs if a boat is actually some kind of investmentCan't keep reading, too funny!!!!

Yeahhhhhhh great investment!!!!
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...Your pants should be on fire by now; 1) warranty is still applies for first owners just like any other Warranty. 2) Again with the BS " Reportedly a bad riding hull"; you never owned one and you can't name your source of information, therefore your comment is irrelevant
Dill weed call the factory and they will tell you Polar's do not have a transferable warranty on any boats built before 2009.

And did I say I rode in a 23 no, I said they are reportly a bad riding hull.

Sorry your feelings and manhood are getting steped on but facts are facts...


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My recollection based on reading posts over the years is that most owners were very happy with their Polars, although there were a number of years when the boats were subject to extensive spider-cracking (2004/05 and earlier). I recall one post on a Polar (27, I think) having structural problems in the canyons that limped home, but I don't recall much follow up information.

Polar upgraded the structural rigidity of its boats for the 2008 model year.

I have been on only one Polar, a 27 WA with twin F225s, a couple of times. It is a nice boat, reasonably well laid out (the cockpit was pretty small for fishing due to the optional tackle station) with a lot of nice features. The fit and finish was really good. I wasn't examining the hidden structural aspects of the boat, so I can't say how well it was built and I didn't get to run it in the ocean. We weren't getting very good fuel mileage (1.3-1.5 mpg on the gauges, but without a full fishing load). The boat did pull the same mpg from 25-35 mph, so that was good and perhaps the mph will hold up with more fishing tackle and ice. It rode very well in bay-type conditions (2' of wind-produced chop). The boat is heavy (6,300 lbs) so that would contribute to the lowered fuel mileage but also would help the ride.

If you can get one with the upgraded structure, you may have a great deal. My impression is that Polars are nice boats with a lot of features for the price. Unless the market sees through the bashing, however, it may be difficult to sell the boat when you want to move up.
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don't know about you but I have always made money on resale of boats I have bought. One 45ft boat I sold 8 years after I bought her for 2 times what I paid for her. Maybe you try it.
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"EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE" AND " YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"....

I HAVE A DEAL ON A LEFTOVER POLAR 2100 DC AFTER LOOKING AT KEY WEST, SEA FOX, SEASWIRL, GRADY WHITE, TROPHY, TRIUMPH, SEA HUNT, WELLCRAFT, AND MORE.

NOWHERE DID I FIND A BOAT WITH BETTER PACKAGE THAN POLAR.

THE QUALITY OF THE THE COMPONENTS IS SUPERIOR TO MOST, THE LAYOUT AND AMENITIES WERE UNMATCHED BY ANY OTHER BOAT IN IT'S CLASS, THE HULL IS ACTUALLY REPORTED TO BE A VERY COMFORTABLE RIDE

http://www.godfreymarine.com/test/POLAREXPRESS.pdf

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY A COMPARABLE GW HAS ONLY AN 8' BEAM?

THE COCKPIT AND BOW AREA OF THE POLAR ARE VERY DEEP AND SECURE FEELING FOR THE FAMILY OUTINGS, PLUS THE REMOVABLE SKI PYLON IS A HUGE PLUS NOT OFFERED BY ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER.

THE MONEY I SAVE UP FRONT WILL EASILY BE REMEMBERED WHEN I CHOOSE TO TRADE UP YEARS FROM NOW.
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"EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE" AND " YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"....

I HAVE A DEAL ON A LEFTOVER POLAR 2100 DC AFTER LOOKING AT KEY WEST, SEA FOX, SEASWIRL, GRADY WHITE, TROPHY, TRIUMPH, SEA HUNT, WELLCRAFT, AND MORE.

NOWHERE DID I FIND A BOAT WITH BETTER PACKAGE THAN POLAR.

THE QUALITY OF THE THE COMPONENTS IS SUPERIOR TO MOST, THE LAYOUT AND AMENITIES WERE UNMATCHED BY ANY OTHER BOAT IN IT'S CLASS, THE HULL IS ACTUALLY REPORTED TO BE A VERY COMFORTABLE RIDE

http://www.godfreymarine.com/test/POLAREXPRESS.pdf

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY A COMPARABLE GW HAS ONLY AN 8' BEAM?

THE COCKPIT AND BOW AREA OF THE POLAR ARE VERY DEEP AND SECURE FEELING FOR THE FAMILY OUTINGS, PLUS THE REMOVABLE SKI PYLON IS A HUGE PLUS NOT OFFERED BY ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER.

THE MONEY I SAVE UP FRONT WILL EASILY BE REMEMBERED WHEN I CHOOSE TO TRADE UP YEARS FROM NOW.
You are exactly CORRECT in every way. John (posted above) continues to say a " reportedly" a bad riding hull, off course he never rode one and I have been in many boats of all sizes, very dificult to determine the ride of a hull when someone else is driving...it is a very subjective issue, I have seen guys married to doggy looking girls but who knows?
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Ok guys was looking at a 19cc polar and then i found this forum.... It is a 2003 looks to be in decent shape. 125 HP merc. 2 stroke. and trailer. Used on the LI sound. T-Top/canvas rocket, launchers . Couple questions.... What is it worth? Now i am a bit leery about the older Polars ! Should I ? Thanks !
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I don't like them because every time I see one I think it says POL..ICE on the side.
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I don't like them because every time I see one I think it says POL..ICE on the side.
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