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Used 2005 Sea Hunt 212
I came up with about $16k using NADA for this boat using average prices.
One I'm looking at is In great shape overall, very good condition.
No trim tabs, no fishfinder, just basic GPS.
T-Top
Low hours, less than 200 on 2005 Yam F150 4-stroke
Aluminum trailer in good shape
They are asking $20,900, and said no way are they taking anything less than $20k.
Is NADA was off on this one, or are they?
I'm not sure how good NADA prices are, seems most people ask above NADA prices, some of which sit around for a while unsold. You can probably get that boat for around $30k new. $20,900 seems high considering the lack of electronics and it's 5 years old.
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If you found a clean boat you should buy it. Clean boats of any brand are extremely hard to find. BTDT After hunting for 2yrs and looking at trashed boats for the price of new ones I bought new.
I own a '06 Sea Hunt 212 and paid $34,000.00 (equipped) out the door in November of 2005. I beat the heck out of it for 3+ yrs and it is still like new. With a 150 Yammy you are looking at 45 to 47MPH. Cruise 32 mph @ 4200-4500 RPM and 5 mpg.
Out of curiosity I shopped for a new one and a new one, today, costs close to 55k out the door, equipped and on a dual wheel aluminum trailer. It is awesome how the price of new boats doubles almost every two years. I would say 21k for a 4 yr. old one in excellent shape is a good price. Others here would steer you to other brands as this site is loaded with salesmen. I assume you have been looking for awhile.
I find that it handles the nasty intracoastal waterway Sunday chop pretty good. Except for the wake of 40+ Hatteras running 17 MPH and other 5' wake dragging large yachts. Sometimes I fear their wake will knock down the seawalls as it goes right over them.
NADA is an approximation of what the dealer would give you on trade=in in many cases. Others it is way far off. I tried Boat trader but all I saw there was junk.
BTW:
I've been to Bimini on it several times from Miami. I cruise 5 to 15 miles offshore North to Palm Beach and South to Key Largo. I try not to go out on anything over real 4' (taller than my bow at idle speed). Since waves are from east the toughest part is getting out the inlets. Once headed N or S you are broadside and can go 30 to 35 mph. Been caught in some nasty thunderstorms which turn those 1-3' to 3-5' quickly. Wife just closes her eyes till we get where we are going. On 3-5 best speed seems to be 15 to 18mph. On a CV 32 you can just keep going 35 mph on those 3-5" but it is bumpy.
Right now the boat is in Los Angeles. It has 1000 hrs on it's engine. I have no intention of selling it.
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Nice boat, but seems high to me. 5 years old... I would shop a new one hard (very hard) and see what they get for a new one... then use that as a guide.
Listing a boat for $20,900 and then saying nothing under $20,000 could mean:
1) we priced it right, scew off
2) we are dreaming, and hope you want the boat more than we want to sell it
3) we don't care if we sell it
In this economy, with used boats being plentiful AND Sea Hunt new prices being awesome, I would think he is working #2. But tough to tell.
Only 200 hours in 5 years? That's another thing that makes me wonder...
Lots of boats for sale in our area. Tampa, St. Pete and Clearwater. I don't think their pricing is realistic. Looks good and the lower hours helps, but that should be about an 18k boat. One thing though..we must not have many SeaHunt dealers around us, as they don't come up for sale that often. It just depends on how badly you have to have it...
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Listing a boat for $20,900 and then saying nothing under $20,000 could mean:
1) we priced it right, scew off
2) we are dreaming, and hope you want the boat more than we want to sell it
3) we don't care if we sell it
4) 5 years ago I took out a 10 year loan on the boat and am completly upside down (effectively I have only paid the interest to date and no principle). $20K to pay the note.
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I shopped for that exact boat for a while last year, 20K is high. I agree with 16-18 if it's very clean. I also agree that it's tough to find a clean used boat, especially at a fair price. I had to make quite a few offers and just let them sit, some of the brokers were pissed with my offers and refused to call me back or even counter. After 2 years ended up buying from a private seller, I was fed up and ready to buy new this March if I hadn't found anything yet.
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I would do the 18 I think, no questions asked. I mean, you guys are right to apoint.. $2k for such a large investment isn't really that big of a deal. Its just that I find it hard to believe people are asking and expecting top dollar in this economy. Houses on my street were $390k in 2004... there are some short selling now for 100k.... the one next door is $119k, I guess you can see where I'm coming from.... I guess I just want a sick deal rather than just a good/straight even deal based upon what's going on...
Just trying to take advantage of a bad thing, since I've saved my money for so long... Not trying to be evil or anything...
I agree, especially if it's been well taken care of...
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Actually, you can't price a new one because Sea Hunt discontinued the Triton 212 after, I think, the 2006 model year. They currently make a BX21 which is 21'2" in length but it's a bay boat and the layout is different. It has a raised fishing platform bow area, the transom notch is about half as deep, the console configuration is different and the boat has less freeboard.
You could compare it to new Triton 207 but even this is not really the same boat and sports a Euro transom versus the notch in the '05 Triton. A fair deal on a new 207 with trailer, T-top and the F150 will be around 31K
The boat you are looking at may be at the high end of it's price range but it appears to be in remarkably good shape and the price seems warranted. I think the low hours on the motor is a good thing as long as it was properly serviced and prepped for layup.
The guy probably knows he has a super clean boat and wants a price that reflects it's condition. If you like the boat, do a sea trial and, if everything checks out, give him the 20K.
Incidentally, NADA quotes way low and, for that reason, is often used by dealers to determine wholesale trade in values.
I wouldn't walk from it if I loved it over $2k between good deal and a stole it deal, but thats me. It looks like new from here, which makes it a great value IMHO, as close to new as you get for 1/2 the money
I just looked for a few months for a friend, there are steals here and there, but not everywhere you look for sure.
What size trim tabs would work well on this boat, and about how much is it to buy them if I were to install myself, or with a friend that has done it before? Then of course I would have to buy and rig a decent fishfinder too.
What size trim tabs would work well on this boat, and about how much is it to buy them if I were to install myself, or with a friend that has done it before? Then of course I would have to buy and rig a decent fishfinder too.
I would run it for a while before putting tabs on it. You may not need them. If you do go with them, 9x12s would work fine. Also, Lenco electric tabs are less complicated than hydraulic and easier to install. What's nice about that boat is that there is no swim ladder to interfere with tab installation.
There are plenty of reasonably priced combination chartplotter/fish finders available. There may be a "chase" (probably on the starboard side) to run the wire back to a transom mount transducer.
Traded a 2005 set up pretty much the same (we had full curtains, swim ladder, digital gauges, flip back seat rather than leaning post shown and a galvanized trailer rather than the aluminum) on a new 24 Gamefish back in December. Had approximately 750 hours on the engine. The one pictured looks like a "10" condition-wise and I would say ours was a solid 8.5. $16,500 was the trade number we got.
It was a great boat, and altough it's always easy to spend somebody else's money, I would think $20,000 for that combination of condition and hours though maybe not a "steal" would at a minimum be a fair deal for all.
And by the way, I never get overly excited about any trade number because I just figure they jack up the other end of the deal. "On the road" or I guess in the case of boats "on the water" is the only number I'm really interested in.
...altough it's always easy to spend somebody else's money, I would think $20,000 for that combination of condition and hours though maybe not a "steal" would at a minimum be a fair deal for all.
+1 A metaphor in baseball about a "fair" trade is one in which both sides feel a little pain. The notion that you should be able to outright "steal" a boat from someone -- versus striking a fair deal -- seems a little over-played in forums. Sure, it happens -- and the guy who gets the incredible deal is quick to tell everyone.
But, getting a near mint, late-model low-hours boat for half off the original price doesn't seem so bad, does it? Why wait more months to get on the water -- while spending endless hours online making lowball offers? Just to feel like you ripped someone off?
Remember, the first owner is the "sucker", not you -- he's the one who got screwed and took the massive depreciation hit. And, likely, he doesn't want salt poured in his wounds on top of it all. If you paid $20k for this boat and kept it well for a few years, you'd likely get most of your money back... sounds pretty good to me.
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4) 5 years ago I took out a 10 year loan on the boat and am completly upside down (effectively I have only paid the interest to date and no principle). $20K to pay the note.
+1 Likely, that's the cut-off for most people. No one wants to write a check AND lose their boat, regardless of what the supposed market conditions are. That's something that NADA misses, in their arbitrary pricing of used models. Bottom line, the fair price is what both sides agree upon. If you can find something else as good for less, get that one. If not, and this is your best option, do it. Just get on the water.
2005 Sea Hunt 212 realistic pricing? 
