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I have a force outboard on a 17 bayliner that is still running pretty good. I got it from an uncle that used it for about 25 yrs. He bought a new Rude to replace it and gave it to my kids. Theyve had it for 12 yrs. We drag it behind the Post everytime we go to Catalina. Use it as a shore boat. It has been pretty reliable. of course we have a good mechannic maintain it.
Location: Los Angeles, FL.or Georgia, depends. In Fl now.
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Originally Posted by ezjohn
I'm surprised the E-TEC motors are so low on the charts. I rode in a 20 bass boat the other day with a 250 E-TEC on a power jack plate and let me tell you, that thing had some fricking power out the hole, We took the boat up to 60mph and then backed of to around 35mph.The E-TEC's are very under-rated motors.
That's due to heavy duty putdowns by the newbie 4 stroke loving crowd. Putt putt instead of huff poof..
I know 2 guys in my area that run smaller commercial boats with a 200 Honda. One has 3500 hrs and the other was over 4000 hrs last i spoke to him. No major problems. I'm surprised Honda gets no love
I know 2 guys in my area that run smaller commercial boats with a 200 Honda. One has 3500 hrs and the other was over 4000 hrs last i spoke to him. No major problems. I'm surprised Honda gets no love
Honda outboards are like Honda cars - not sexy, but all about solid engineering and quiet reliability. Speed freaks and horsepower junkies need not apply.
I know 2 guys in my area that run smaller commercial boats with a 200 Honda. One has 3500 hrs and the other was over 4000 hrs last i spoke to him. No major problems. I'm surprised Honda gets no love
I had my choice of power last year when I had my boat built and proven reliability, best fuel economy over the other brands and a good warranty won out
I would pick whichever has best service and you trust the most. I love Yamahas BUT Suzuki offers more options between 150 and 200. I just dont know about getting parts for them and service is much more sparse for them... Mercs and Etecs have just never done it for me, but that does not mean they are any less reliable or a good option...
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Hands down, if you are a do it yourselfer Yamaha and suzuki is the way to go. I have called Yamaha and suzuki over the years and always got the information or the resources that I was looking for.OMC and Merc from the 80's and 90's were not consumer do it yourself friendly. I'm in south Florida, you need to find what works for you, I put an average of 500 hours a year on my Yammies twin 150's and 50 hours on my 90 2 stroke. You have to be able to do basic repairs unless your loaded!!!! I have towed many boats in over the years, I will say I never towed a Honda powered boat, but, South Florida is a not a hot bed for Honda.
iI would buy a sususki hands down we run on our sea tow boats put 4000 + hard hour on them.. Just change zincs and oils. Can't beat the torc and power of these things. They take a beating.
This is great information if you are buying a new boat and are worried about the re-sale value. Best bet for quicker re-sale....Gotta go with the Yamaha.
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If you would have asked me 6 months ago......hands down Yamaha. I've had very good service from them for years. However, I now run a set of Suzuki DF175's and I couldn't be happier with them so far. Good performance and fuel economy. Deep down I'd still pick the Yamahas but I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Suzuki.
I am interested in a suzuki 175 pr , boat size? motors have controls and gauges included or extra??
price range? thanks
Suzy swings the biggest prop which I look at as an advantage, especially when trolling.
I also do not think you can beat their warranty and fuel economy, and the fact that they have a light weight 4 cyl 175hp 4 stroke.
Yamaha is fine, but Suzy is better inmo.
Honda is a fine engine, but they are expensive,
The other 2 run a distant 4th and 5th imo.
I agree 100%. I running my second yammie now because the brand I run gives no other choice. Have run Merc and Rude in the past as well as Suzuki.....Given the choice I would run Zuke. Best outboard I ever owned.
Any future decision I make about engines will be based on power. And I'm not talking about what comes off the propshaft, but what comes out from under the flywheel (or not). Honda uses a real automotive alternator and generates about 48A at idle. That's real power.
Yamaha F150 (current version) generates 20A at idle of which 7 is needed to run the engine. 13A for all your gear.
Etec is worse. They have two charging systems that give 25A each at 2000rpm, but at 1000rpm they are puny with 5A each. The lowest there is.
Yamaha got the message for the new engines show 47A at idle. Someone's listening.
Don't know about Verado. That info seems to be held closely.
But nothing gets considered without a Alternator Output spec sheet, cuz when it comes to fishing forever, the most important source of power comes out of a wire.
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I would do exactly what I have in the past when I repower........go to all the local dealers, see what they have available in new and new leftovers' and price out the apples to apples same type, same HP, etc and buy my best deal. Last time it was Merc that one.
And using Morse controls, I can hang anything I want on the bracket and not feel 'stuck' with a certain manufacturer, not having to face buying all new controls to switch brands.
"But nothing gets considered without a Alternator Output spec sheet, cuz when it comes to fishing forever, the most important source of power comes out of a wire"
excuse my ignorance but i thought alternators (and power in general) were measured in wattage
"But nothing gets considered without a Alternator Output spec sheet, cuz when it comes to fishing forever, the most important source of power comes out of a wire"
excuse my ignorance but i thought alternators (and power in general) were measured in wattage
They are actually rated in amps, when figuring output 'capacity', not watts.
Most stock are generally 40 to 55 amps. Police cars and aftermarket for faster charging (also common with sailboats), etc are often 100 amp+ units.
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I am interested in a suzuki 175 pr , boat size? motors have controls and gauges included or extra??
price range? thanks
I didn't buy the Suzukis new. They were already on the boat. The boat is a 07' Dusky 256, which is a pretty large 25 footer. It jumps up on plane faster than my Hydra-Sports 25' did with twin 250's. However once up and running the Hydra-Sports was much faster. I've seen DF 175's advertised for around 11K. I'm sure that doesn't include controls. Still less expensive than the Yamahas though.
