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Old 11-20-2009, 09:24 AM
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Hey, did anybody hear about that Everglades that sunk off Tampa with some football players in it? I think Everglades was trying to keep it hush so nobody hears about their boat sinking?
The Everglades didn't sink, the football players did.
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The Everglades didn't sink, the football players did.
That's not really tasteful or kind.............................................. ........

























but it's funny as hell.
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I friend told me that he has a friend who knows a guy that got given an Everglades and he was very pissed and says they sux.... Just heard it can anyone give me details...
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I can see this thread going downhill quickly (possibly with "a friend's" restaurant reviews)!
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I blame Bush.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:59 AM
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I blame Bush.
It is definitely the fault of the Army Corps of Engineers for failing to maintain the Gulf of Mexico to standards adequate to preserve human life.
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It is definitely the fault of the Army Corps of Engineers for failing to maintain the Gulf of Mexico to standards adequate to preserve human life.
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Well, since you brought up the Corp of Engineers in such a sarcastic way, I'll pick up the ball and throw it back to you. Yes, the COE was very negligent in performing their duties with regard to maintenance of the MRGO (Mississippi River Gulf Outlet) which you made a backhanded reference to. The original channel expanded to several hundred yard (YARDS) wide and was maintained at a working depth of app. 40 feet. The growth in the width of the channel was due to erosion which continued from the initial dredging of the channel to the present time. This was brought on by the saltwater incursion which killed the vegetation including trees and grasses and laid bare the area for erosion. There was an outcry from the people in the area, particularly St. Bernard Parish (county for you undoctrinated), for years to close the channel mouth or fill it in. All to no avail. This channel was instrumental in exasorbating any flooding which occured since it's opening and many people, lay as well as learned/professional have called for something to be done about it. Now, after expert testimony on both sides, evidence points to neglect and negligence on the part of the Corp.
And while I no longer live in the New Orleans area, I am still haunted by the COE by way of their expert management of Lake Sidney Lanier in North Georgia. They had 50 year old instructions on how to manage the lake water levels and by God, they stayed with those instructions no matter that the lake level fell by 17 feet (the lowest it has ever been since its construction) during the last drought that ended this past September. Rather than slow the discharge from the lake to help maintain its level, they were more worried about power plants further downstream having enough water to operate, Lake Lanier be damned. It all started with the installation of a new lake level gauge at the COE office on Lake Lanier. It was off by 2 feet. (It read 2 feet higher than the actual water level.) Lakeside residents called out the error, but again, the COE turned a deaf ear to them. (A Redneck with a broomstick would have provided a better measure of lake levels.) Finally, they admitted to their error, but by that time the lake was dreadfully low and steadily falling. So much for their level of expertise.
So, while what you wrote was meant in jest, it sheds light on a very serious situtation of dereliction of duty by the COE.
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Anyone hear about this? Friend of mine heard that a 29-31 YF was fishing offshore, while grouper digging all of a sudden water came rushing in and swamped the transom. Boat was fully submerged in less than 30 sec. Luckly a boat was near by that spotted the bow pointing straight up before it sunk. Happened +/- 2 monthS ago. He had limited info on color/power. But it was a YF for sure. Anyone hear more about this? I myself find it tough to believe....But Stuff Happens
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Well, since you brought up the Corp of Engineers in such a sarcastic way, I'll pick up the ball and throw it back to you. Yes, the COE was very negligent in performing their duties with regard to maintenance of the MRGO (Mississippi River Gulf Outlet) which you made a backhanded reference to. The original channel expanded to several hundred yard (YARDS) wide and was maintained at a working depth of app. 40 feet. The growth in the width of the channel was due to erosion which continued from the initial dredging of the channel to the present time. This was brought on by the saltwater incursion which killed the vegetation including trees and grasses and laid bare the area for erosion. There was an outcry from the people in the area, particularly St. Bernard Parish (county for you undoctrinated), for years to close the channel mouth or fill it in. All to no avail. This channel was instrumental in exasorbating any flooding which occured since it's opening and many people, lay as well as learned/professional have called for something to be done about it. Now, after expert testimony on both sides, evidence points to neglect and negligence on the part of the Corp.
And while I no longer live in the New Orleans area, I am still haunted by the COE by way of their expert management of Lake Sidney Lanier in North Georgia. They had 50 year old instructions on how to manage the lake water levels and by God, they stayed with those instructions no matter that the lake level fell by 17 feet (the lowest it has ever been since its construction) during the last drought that ended this past September. Rather than slow the discharge from the lake to help maintain its level, they were more worried about power plants further downstream having enough water to operate, Lake Lanier be damned. It all started with the installation of a new lake level gauge at the COE office on Lake Lanier. It was off by 2 feet. (It read 2 feet higher than the actual water level.) Lakeside residents called out the error, but again, the COE turned a deaf ear to them. (A Redneck with a broomstick would have provided a better measure of lake levels.) Finally, they admitted to their error, but by that time the lake was dreadfully low and steadily falling. So much for their level of expertise.
So, while what you wrote was meant in jest, it sheds light on a very serious situtation of dereliction of duty by the COE.
I assume this is directed at me, but there is no way in hell that I am going to read all of that crap. Cliffs Notes anyone?
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I assume this is directed at me, but there is no way in hell that I am going to read all of that crap. Cliffs Notes anyone?
too funny. I think it falls on Obama....... If we had more oil rigs out there they could have tied up...
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I assume this is directed at me, but there is no way in hell that I am going to read all of that crap. Cliffs Notes anyone?
Army COE sucks.
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The YF sank because of the inoperative bilge pumps.
It was mandated under ObamaBoatCare that the owner should not do self-inspections and the pumps should only be checked by a certificated inspector once every two years.
But since it was under 50 years old, it did not require inspections under the mandate.
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The Government sucks? Here is some more breaking news for you:


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I assume this is directed at me, but there is no way in hell that I am going to read all of that crap. Cliffs Notes anyone?
TL;DR (too long; didn't read): some butthurt about the Corp of Engineers

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Its gotta be the gas tanks....
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fwiw, the Everglades did not sink, but had flipped due at least in part to being anchored from the stern in heavy weather.

Everglades, EdgeWaters and Boston Whalers cannot sink. Not possible.
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fwiw, the Everglades did not sink, but had flipped due at least in part to being anchored from the stern in heavy weather.

Everglades, EdgeWaters and Boston Whalers cannot sink. Not possible.
They may not sink but the end result is the same which is your ass in the water...
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Well, not exactly. The one guy who survived did so by floating on top of the inverted hull, out of the cold water.
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Who makes the BEST boat between 22' 11" and 23' that is least likely to sink when anchored at the stern in high seas and the throttle is gunned? Yes, this thread is going down hill.

BTW, it looks like the Yellowfin story was made up. If not, please provide some news or CG reports....
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