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Old 11-17-2009, 02:59 PM
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No one is asking about the bolt pattern, they are asking what he distance needs to be b/w the centers of said patterns so that the engines aren't touching each other.

Can't wait to see these on some boats...33 Inv, 33TS, 31TS, 32YF
I was on the Edgewater 31 with the 300's. Cruise at 40mph was 1.7-1.9 if I recall. WOT was 55-56.

BTW....that Edgwater ran well on a river.
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I'm guessing you are watching the traffic on your site. Every forum I've checked that mentions the new Yammies has a link to your site....shrewd marketing. ....you stuck the .pdfs right on your retail parts page.
The hosting company called and asked what the heck is up with all the traffic!

I was going to put the Sham-Wows on that page along with the Jupiter Jack promo's. Good idea ya think?
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I can't stop thinking about all the manufacturers (Grady, Pursuit, etc) that rig Yamaha and what they will be able to do now. F250 wasn't enough, F350 was too damn heavy. This is just great news for Yamaha and many builders.

I need to start searching for that Pursuit 3370 with no engines... ran great with twin F250s, can only guess what it will do with twin F300s...
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is there an S.H.O. 300??? I thought only 200, 225, and 250 were S H O models for 20 inch transoms
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From basszone: http://www.basszone.com/2009quickflips/gamechanger2.htm

BBC guys seem pretty excited.
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is there an S.H.O. 300??? I thought only 200, 225, and 250 were S H O models for 20 inch transoms

Not a SHO 300, it is the offshore model. See above where SIM lake tested a 31 Edgewater with 300's.

Also see his site for the hot sheet, and buy a ShamWow! while you are there.

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Trying to find out the motor spacing right now. My hpdi's are on 26" centers and I think the new F300 will need 28" on center. No problem though just fill in the old holes and they will drill new holes 1" each way when they rig them. Checked on price today and got a quick price of about $40-42k with new rigging, controls and gauges. Availability is the problem, was told anywhere between March to June to the repower world.
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No one is asking about the bolt pattern, they are asking what he distance needs to be b/w the centers of said patterns so that the engines aren't touching each other.
Do we have an answer to this?
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Checked on price today and got a quick price of about $40-42k with new rigging, controls and gauges.
I could buy a whole lot of boat with that money. With engines already on it.
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The entire lineup of new V6's will have significantly less weight, larger displacements, be more fuel efficient, offer better performance, shift dampers, five inch color Command Link Plus instrumentation, and anti-theft technology - and with Yamaha and their vast dealership backing them all up. This totally destroys the weight saving argument for ever repowering with an Evinrude E-Tec two stroke.

These engines are the death blow for the gas hogging E-Tec and their rip off two stroke oil and after having owned a pair I say good riddance to them.

Way to go Yamaha !!!!!!!
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I could buy a whole lot of boat with that money. With engines already on it.
You want expensive try a new Contender 27 with the new 300's on it when it comes available!
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pretty fucking cool! 300hp 30inch shaft less wieght than the HPDI can that be right???
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You want expensive try a new Contender 27 with the new 300's on it when it comes available!

Better yet, Contender's new 31 TS with the F300's
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I have a 2008 os335 pursuit that came with the 350 v-8 engines WAY to heavy, there is a pair of the new 300's on order for me riight now , as soon as there installed i will post results. These engines will no dought make this one sweet boat.
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Looks fast out of the hole...and quiet.

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The entire lineup of new V6's will have significantly less weight, larger displacements, be more fuel efficient, offer better performance, shift dampers, five inch color Command Link Plus instrumentation, and anti-theft technology - and with Yamaha and their vast dealership backing them all up. This totally destroys the weight saving argument for ever repowering with an Evinrude E-Tec two stroke.

These engines are the death blow for the gas hogging E-Tec and their rip off two stroke oil and after having owned a pair I say good riddance to them.

Way to go Yamaha !!!!!!!
I think this will be a game changer for the industry, coming from older F225's, which I hated, this looks promising....It also appears they have cut a lot of weight from the engines, which could affect their long term durability, especially in heavy offshore saltwater rigs, that being said, I've stated that all modern engines have about a 7 year average life cycle until they eat you alive in repair costs anyways, so life expectancy beyond 5-7 years is no longer a big deal anyways. It will turn the heat up on all manufacturer's, brunswick, BRP, and Suzuki have pretty much been served notice....but I don't suspect it's going to put anyone out of the business, or be the death nail....

$42,000.00 for a pair of these installed is alot of money.....quite a bit more than you would pay for zukes, etecs or opti's......and you still have service annually.....so once again, due to the epa and environmental whacko's, boating continues to get more expensive, after reading about Yam's financial issues last week, I don't know how many people will be dishing out this type of money over the next year or two until the economy recovers....

You, BTW have pretty much been exposed now as a basher, I seriously doubt that your "sales story" has any validity at all.......


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Now that Lentine Marine lost their Yamaha dealership who in So. Florida is going to pick up the slack for being the cheapest repower volume dealer?
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I have a 2008 os335 pursuit that came with the 350 v-8 engines WAY to heavy, there is a pair of the new 300's on order for me riight now , as soon as there installed i will post results. These engines will no dought make this one sweet boat.
Not to derail this thread, but just out of curiousity. Is Pursuit helping you foot the bill for the repower? I am assuming the boat was factory rigged with the F350's that are too heavy for the boat. Or, am I opening up a can of worms here...
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Sorry, but right now i have to take the 5th.
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The E-tec’s supposed advantage was they were significantly lighter and had more torque than four stroke outboards. Now with Yamaha’s next generation of lighter V6 225 and 250 hp four strokes ( both weighing just 558 lbs ) the weight difference is only 34 lbs between them and the E-tec ( 524 lbs ). The difference is even less for Yamaha’s new V6 300 hp vs the 300 hp E-tec ( 528 lbs ) at just 30 lbs – insignificant even for flats boats and older two stroke powered boats. And with Yamaha’s new V6 engines now having much larger displacements at 254 cu. inches, they’ll have greater torque too so that eliminates that argument as well.


Even Yamaha’s current four strokes already get much better fuel economy than the gas hog E-tec 250’s, I know I owned a pair, and seeing how Yamaha made better fuel economy a priority with their next gen that is sure to increase significantly as well. Combine this large savings in fuel with no more of Evinrude’s horribly expensive xd100 two stroke oil ( and most likely higher prices for gas and oil coming next year ) and it will cost MUCH more to run an E-tec. With the E-tec’s weight and torque advantages totally gone they just don’t offer any advantages anymore.



Mercury’s Verado has proven itself as having a BMW level of refinement and quality in the outboard world, Yamaha has always had a reputation for reliability, and Suzuki has established itself as the best value in an outboard engine. Collectively Mercury, Yamaha, and Suzuki have out engineered, out marketed, and overall just outsmarted Evinrude. Compared to the huge improvements in both Mercury and now Yamaha’s next generation four strokes the E-tec looks like an 8 bit Apple II computer vs a state of the art Dell with Windows 7.



With several boat manufacturers recently having gone out of business I’m looking for one of the outboard manufactures to follow and the company with the weakest product line is now Evinrude. I had a long discussion with the sales manager of a large outboard engine Superstore in Virginia and he told me their E-tec sales are “a joke” compared to four strokes. And just this month the VP and General Manager of Evinrude, Roch Lambert, quit and left the company - he may very well know the end is near for them.



There are sure to be many boat tests coming in the near future on Yamaha’s next Generation V6’s and the proof will be there for all to see.
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