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Old 11-08-2009, 02:02 PM
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What issues? There are no issues, they are faster, more efficient and no they do not ride any worse than a deep v. I have owned them all and the stepped hull I have now is better than anything I have ever had.
Well there you go, again the Yellowfin owners boats perform better in all conditions. Since I have never been on a stepped hull ( other than in the river on a 36 YF) I would like to really know which one rides better at 28 kts in rough water. Seems when I get to go fish it is always snotty out and my old age is starting to show.
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Well there you go, again the Yellowfin owners boats perform better in all conditions. Since I have never been on a stepped hull ( other than in the river on a 36 YF) I would like to really know which one rides better at 28 kts in rough water. Seems when I get to go fish it is always snotty out and my old age is starting to show.
At slow speeds plowing into a head sea, there will be little difference(considering same length beam). You are just plowing your way through the sea at a slow speed, 25-30mph. They start to feel like a displacement hull with Full Tabs & Motors trimmed all the way in.
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At slow speeds plowing into a head sea, there will be little difference(considering same length beam). You are just plowing your way through the sea at a slow speed, 25-30mph. They start to feel like a displacement hull with Full Tabs & Motors trimmed all the way in.
Exactly, show me another boat that has a bow as big as a YF for its size. When it gets really rough the tabs go down and it punches through waves just like any other deep v hull.
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This really gets old. Enough of he bashing boats and arguing.

High speed turns are a downside. Rough seas are a little worse depending on the boat. high speed trolling it acts a little different. Anything else? Are they typically heavier or lighter compared to a similar boat. Like the 33t to the 33st? Are they more money by a substantial amount.
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Unless you took two exact boats, one with steps and one without, theres no way to compare how the ride. The performance and efficiency advantages are well documented, but you cant compare two different boats and judge how steps effect ride when there are a lot of other differences. I think the closest you might find is the Proline 23 and Donzi 23. The boats appear nealry identical except for steps.
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well contender now has 31 t and 31 st.
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As anyone who has driven stepped hulls knows, trim the motors in before initiating the turn, and chop the throttles. AVS steps will cause the motors to ventilate, creating a loss of grip, and a subsequent slowing of speed, which will make the turn much more manageable.

And, as always, alert your passengers, if they are not already aware, of a sudden change in direction...

I have always heard from go fast guys that the last thing you want to do is trim the motors in on a hard turn. Trimming in will drop the bow down which will also raise the stern and doing this will make the boat want to spin out. I have no seat time in a step boat but have always been told you want to leave the motors at close to running attitude when turning.
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I have always heard from go fast guys that the last thing you want to do is trim the motors in on a hard turn. Trimming in will drop the bow down which will also raise the stern and doing this will make the boat want to spin out. I have no seat time in a step boat but have always been told you want to leave the motors at close to running attitude when turning.

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TBS,
As anyone who has driven stepped hulls knows, trim the motors in before initiating the turn, and chop the throttles. AVS steps will cause the motors to ventilate, creating a loss of grip, and a subsequent slowing of speed, which will make the turn much more manageable.

And, as always, alert your passengers, if they are not already aware, of a sudden change in direction...

Wrong my friend, triming the motors in will cause the back of the boat to lift which makes it spin, keep the motors neutral in trim when turning a steped boat.
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Wrong my friend, triming the motors in will cause the back of the boat to lift which makes it spin, keep the motors neutral in trim when turning a steped boat.
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Wrong my friend, triming the motors in will cause the back of the boat to lift which makes it spin, keep the motors neutral in trim when turning a steped boat.
I have often made sharp turns in a chanel with my motors trimmed way up and never had the ass spin out or even get loose. You would really have to drive very hard to do this from what I have seen.
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proline 23 and donzi 23or
contender 31 t and 31 st.

I would love to hear the advantages/disadvantage between these particular hulls especially with the same max power package.
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I have often made sharp turns in a chanel with my motors trimmed way up and never had the ass spin out or even get loose. You would really have to drive very hard to do this from what I have seen.
Neutral to Up is fine it holds the stern down, its when u trim them down all the way (lifting the stern) when turning does it become an issue.
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I had a 33 Intrepid and it ran like it was on rails. Every conventional, non-stepped hull i have been on, Regulator, Pursuit, Contender, etc.... rode bow high compared to the stepped hulls i have fished on including Yellowfins.

As far as rough goes, we fished a lot out of St Lucie Inlet which is one of the worst on the east coast and would blast past the many of the same size conventional hulls as the steep waves would cause their bow to rise up and slap and our stepped hull Intrepid would punch right through. Go to Yellowfins website and look at the video of thier boats and pay close attention to the running angle and then go to Edgewaters and do the same. No comparison. The downside is they can be wet if they don't have a lot of bow flair as they run so level. You also have to take into account HOW MANY steps as some have one, two, three and this makes a HUGE difference.
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