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With the flood of used boats out there I have convinced Momma its a good time to look for a live aboard. Something in the 40 to 50 foot range. Would mainly be used 2 to 3 weeks at a time. One of my main requirements is dual helm, with 1 inside the salon area. I don't want to be up top in foul weather. Also fishable/divable
With the flood of used boats out there I have convinced Momma its a good time to look for a live aboard. Something in the 40 to 50 foot range. Would mainly be used 2 to 3 weeks at a time. One of my main requirements is dual helm, with 1 inside the salon area. I don't want to be up top in foul weather. Also fishable/divable
What can any body suggest?
BTW budget under 200K
1. There are several magazines catering to this type and size boat. Passagemaker for one. Go to a book store (a big one) and you'll find them on the shelves. Buy some and/or subscribe. The back section is full of larger boats for sale.
2. Marinas catering to large boats will have a few for sale. Visit and ask around.
3. Boat brokers will know what is available that might best suit your needs. Brokerage fees are paid by the seller so whatever assistance they provide to you is free to you.
BTW: A 40' - 50' boat that can be had for under $200K will be well out of warranty.
Budget for repairs. Possibly lots of repairs. Get a survey done on the boat and a seperate mechanical survey on the engine, gears, etc.
One of the reasons you will see big boats with no lower helm is because when weather gets snotty and you would want to steer from there visibility sucks. I think this is more of a problem with a big sportfisher with a long bow.
With the flood of used boats out there I have convinced Momma its a good time to look for a live aboard. Something in the 40 to 50 foot range. Would mainly be used 2 to 3 weeks at a time. One of my main requirements is dual helm, with 1 inside the salon area. I don't want to be up top in foul weather. Also fishable/divable
What can any body suggest?
BTW budget under 200K
Trawler.
When we first think about the bigger boats speed comes to mind. Only after owning it for a "VERY" short time will you wish you had know then what most find out after being there. Speed does not matter and its the trip thats so important.
I went big time with twin 502s, in a 36 foot carver,, had to have the power for the quck trips and it would be cool. 95% of the time after buying it I ended up having more fun under 9 kts. and running those motors at about 1800 rpms. Still only got little better than half a mile a gal, then met a couple where I was living that move on the docks from Maine. I lived in New Bern NC at the Sheraton for a while. They had a 36 foot mainship with single 120hp front thrusters. You talking about a sweet set up. A child could drive that thing. We could play all day on less than 30 gal and the speed was 7 to 8 kts. My boat on cruse at .34 to .40 mpg was only 18 mph. Went off shore fishing, and did several 3 day weekend trips we had a blast. 5 6 7 people on the boat chipped in on the 3 days the cost with food was only like $100 each or less. Thats the way to go. They had almost the same room I had but I build a back third deck on mine for sitting so that was the only difference.
Pleanty of room on the rear for fishing and I kicked myself in the butt so meny times for not going that route.
You have your twin control stations, and the enjoyment of it not braking the bank and the best thing you can still get in one for well under 100k. Have fun with the extra for electronics, secure a slip for a few years with that much extra, and enjoy letting your lady fix the inside like she likes.
One thing about big boats and I posted this morning on dockside chat on have you ever sold something and missed it you need to read. ,,, Just make sure your ready for it to become your #1 hobbie. Its a great get away on weekends even if you don't take it out and just go down and relax. NO way go with gas motors and stick with the trawler hulls cause at 7 and 8 kts mine with the planning hull would not run stright as their boat did. Its all or nothing on something that big. Planning or trawler hull. Make sure your ready for what you buy. Thats the key.
My views and comming from experence. Single diesel/ twin would be second choice but with either make sure you get a front thruster or have one installed. Takes about a day to get use to it and its twice as easy as twin motors after you learn it.
Myself I would not own one over 38 foot now that I have lived on the 36. There was plenty of room for everything I had on that boat for 8 months I lived on it and the three years I owned it. Some of my best times were living on the docks and getting to know the ones in transit up and down the intercoastal waterway. Met them and have time to listen to their storys over dinner and drinks.!!!! Living aboard is a BBQ evening time heaven and coffie on top deck early on is like no other. I don't miss that yacht with the 502's but the lifestile will always be apart of me now that I was apart of it. Its a wonderful world your getting in to. Think smart NOW,!!!! and you will enjoy your adventure for years to come.
LUKE
I have lived aboard full time (year around) for a total of 13 years (not currently). 8 of those were world cruising. The boats were all sailboats from 29 to 62 feet in length, all single engine, diesel, no thruster. Most had pilothouses, with a helm station, plus a raised cockpit station. I have also owned several trawlers, with and without lower stations. One of the trawlers, had a completely enclosed with clear vinly flying bridge, insulated hard top, and both heating and air conditionging. It worked every well as well as a lower station in all conditions.
My personal favorite type of boat for living aboard is the sundeck motor yacht, with aft cockpit. I prefer the aft stateroom, for my "bedroom" it is quieter than the foreward stateroom, and usually has a larger shower and head, as well as good sized hanging lockers and storage. There are many boats of this type which can be found for well under the $200,000 mark. Look at boat condition as well as engine condition. Look at a lot of boats. I looked at over 200 boats before I bought the last sundeck motor yacht I owned.
As for manueverability, it depends on skill. Some boats today, and the movable "pods" (not in your price range)--but you might find one with both bow and stern thrusters. I have owned several boats with singles and a thruster, and it is better than no thruster. But many commercial boats have no thruster and they go everywhere. There are tricks of manuevering. Twins with a thruster would be great! But I have seen people with bow and stern, as well as twins, and they could not dock the boat, where a single alone came into the dock under the same conditions with no problems.
Diesel, genset, air conditioning, good refigration (often use household, with an inverter and large battery banks)--or holding plate refigeration (110/engine compressor). Large holding tanks are desirable. Circulating hot water heat is the best for any cold climates.
Thanks for the input so far. I'm aware that the older models will be out of warranty, as long as the mechanical part is sound ( yes a survey is a must ) the interior could be a redo. I do home remodels for a living. Have spent time on a 34 w/ twins and don't have much issue docking or motoring tight channels. Have thought about trawlers but living in Florida had thought about trips to the Isalnds. Is there trawlers that would fit that bill?
Please keep up the input, she came home tonight with a boat trader mag. saying look at this one. ( God bless this dear woman )
You get rid of that one your crazy.
Traderonline.com
Yachtworld.com
usedboats.com
boats.com
E bay.
Those 5 there will have all the listings you want to see. I sold mine on usedboats.com
If your thinking about the Islands a single engine trawler is going to be under powered. Twins for sure if your going far offshore.
Trawlers are fine for the Bahamas. I got my first introduction to the Bahamas on my uncle's 47 Jarvis Newman. It was an awesome boat, which kicked off a love of the sea that has not abated in 20 yrs.
My uncle cruised and dove all over the Bahamas for months at a time. The economy and ride of a trawler type vessel made the trip that much more enjoyable. If anything, you could always tow over a small center console to blast around and fish in when the weather is nice.
Good luck, it is a long term goal of mine to be able to travel, fish, and see the world.
There will be a 1984 Krogen 42 trawler on the market in 2 months that will go well within your budget. Dual station, newer engine and running gear. One owner, full time live aboard since new, its been the ultimate gunkholer from Quebec to the Abaco's. Set up for long range, long term economical cruising.
There will be a 1984 Krogen 42 trawler on the market in 2 months that will go well within your budget.
Thats incredible. I'm learning how to use the Tarot cards as well. I can determine the 42 trawler in his future, but to see an '84 Kroger in the cards is supreme.
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