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Guys, I just wanted to restate that I was told they had 0 failures of their aluminum tanks, each one is in a sealed compartment, with no exposure to the bilge or any channel leading to the bilge. 0 failures and it still needs to be fixed?
We appreciate that statement, but it is coming from them, so it isnt necessarily true. How would you be able to find out if that statement is true or not? Either way, it is a gorgeous boat and you should enjoy it no matter what. If something happens they will most likely stand behind their product.
Guys, I just wanted to restate that I was told they had 0 failures of their aluminum tanks, each one is in a sealed compartment, with no exposure to the bilge or any channel leading to the bilge. 0 failures and it still needs to be fixed?
In other words, with respect to Detour's new boat build it would be polite to continue the gas tank installation and or any other less than constructive criticism somewhere else.
Guys, I just wanted to restate that I was told they had 0 failures of their aluminum tanks, each one is in a sealed compartment, with no exposure to the bilge or any channel leading to the bilge. 0 failures and it still needs to be fixed?
It can be fixed. And it will be a problem at later time. Its not a question of if? only when! Tabs are usually $10.00 each $? they could have set the tank on a flat coosa board type base glassed over. They then would put a Neoprene,teflon or high density plastic strips in strategic thought out areas with channels left open for condensation. Marine environment and fuel entering large tank at different tempertures? Then on the upper outer edge they would have plenty of tabs welded on to the tank tying in to the surroundind compartment with bolts not screws.they could bed aluminum plate into surounding fiberglass then drill and tap it for bolting tabs in. This is the standard of the industry. Why go old school on a top tier boat? Why put pictures on an open forum if you dont want input? Open forum!
In other words, with respect to Detour's new boat build it would be polite to continue the gas tank installation and or any other less than constructive criticism somewhere else.
agreed......we should stop discussing the subject and let the OP enjoy his boat and progress of the build. Keep the pics coming.
I dont see the need for coating the tanks either. They are in a sealed compartment and will not see moisture on the outside of them. Best thing is keeping the moisture away from the tank to begin with. Bottom line is in my opinion if the outside of the tank is seeing moisture its gonna corrode eventually even with a coating it will find a pin hole somewhere and get behind it.
This is not the case, a sealed compartment can still form a CONSIDERABLE amount of condensation and then hold moisture in the compartment indefinatley. Its actually better to have aluminum tanks in a well ventilated compartment to eliminate this effect.
This whole thread has kinda lost me.. so Does yellowfin put a coating on their steel tanks? and they just started doing it? If they are doing it and it may even be overkill, why does it matter if they do it? They are striving to be the best from what I can tell. If I understand this correctly they are putting the most reliable coating there is on their aluminum fuel tanks.. This is what in my mind has set YF apart from most other Center Console builders. They constantly improve their product each and every year and that is why guys like Brett buy new ones so much.. YF does not just get satisfied with their products, they may see something another boat builder does that is a better technique than theirs and they will use it because they know it will improve their product even more.. I could be way off about this tank issue, but this is from what I got out of not reading every single post
The point some of us are trying to make Foam and aluminum tanks do not mix!
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Originally Posted by jpwebb
This whole thread has kinda lost me.. so Does yellowfin put a coating on their steel tanks? and they just started doing it? If they are doing it and it may even be overkill, why does it matter if they do it? They are striving to be the best from what I can tell. If I understand this correctly they are putting the most reliable coating there is on their aluminum fuel tanks.. This is what in my mind has set YF apart from most other Center Console builders. They constantly improve their product each and every year and that is why guys like Brett buy new ones so much.. YF does not just get satisfied with their products, they may see something another boat builder does that is a better technique than theirs and they will use it because they know it will improve their product even more.. I could be way off about this tank issue, but this is from what I got out of not reading every single post
It does not matter what coating you put on there! Foam is an insulation product also! You will create condensation between tank and foam no matter what coating? Just like a glass of cold beer on your wooden coffee table and what it does to the finish! That is why coast guard, marine manufacturers and surveyors organizations will NOT approve a new boat with aluminum tanks foamed in! Yes YF does a great job on almost all points of the boat! But this fuel tank issue is beyond most sound thinking? I think you are way off on the tank issue?
It does not matter what coating you put on there! Foam is an insulation product also! You will create condensation between tank and foam no matter what coating? Just like a glass of cold beer on your wooden coffee table and what it does to the finish! That is why coast guard, marine manufacturers and surveyors organizations will NOT approve a new boat with aluminum tanks foamed in! Yes YF does a great job on almost all points of the boat! But this fuel tank issue is beyond most sound thinking? I think you are way off on the tank issue?
Thanks for the clarification.. I didn't see where the negative issues were said.. I would imagine YF has checked their method with the coast guard, etc. to make sure it is a safe and reliable method.. I doubt they just came up with the idea one day to foam in their tanks and did it.. I am sure there is something done to ensure the quality..
No! the foam in method is old school and coast guard specs. Disaprove and forbid!??
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Originally Posted by jpwebb
Thanks for the clarification.. I didn't see where the negative issues were said.. I would imagine YF has checked their method with the coast guard, etc. to make sure it is a safe and reliable method.. I doubt they just came up with the idea one day to foam in their tanks and did it.. I am sure there is something done to ensure the quality..
What dont you understand about the english language! It is old school! It is safe and reliable in the short term 10 years or more! Some will last 30 years some 11 years? This method is not supposed to be used any more! It has not been used by almost all boat companies for many years! Because a coroding tank can result in gasoline in the bilge it is forbiden!The Coast Guard forbids it in new boats!
If anyone want to know what a Aluminum tank company as old as 1962 has to say about this very interesting subject which happens to put Yellowfin build quality in the eye of the storm, just take a look at sptanks.com and look into their links page, there it can be found not only the propper way to install aluminum tanks but the government regulations on how it should be done to comply as well.
And unfortunately for YF, it is clearly expressed that foaming in is forbidden, no matter which kind of foam, reasons .......... not the durability of the build ( which is seriously compromised) but safety issues with gasoline droppping into the bilge due to corroded aluminum via crevice corrossion, so this being THT if truth is to prevail, the fact is YF is not doing a good job with this sort of aluminum tank installation regardless of how nice and a gentleman Wylie undoubtly is, and yes, for the insignificant amount that does cost to do it right and the nightmarish that cutting a deck to replace/repair tanks is why not ?
If ya'll wouldn't mind please shut up about the tanks and let the op continue adding pictures of his build. I keep checking the thread in hopes of more pictures but all i see it this bs bickering. If you want to talk about the tanks start another thread please.
Detour the boat is looking great and I can't wait to see the final outcome.
If ya'll wouldn't mind please shut up about the tanks and let the op continue adding pictures of his build. I keep checking the thread in hopes of more pictures but all i see it this bs bickering. If you want to talk about the tanks start another thread please.
Detour the boat is looking great and I can't wait to see the final outcome.
Amen, I dont care who forbids what! Post up some more pic's.
Went up to the factory early this week, heading out fishing Friday, my normal day to visit. Here are the pics from today, nothing revolutionary, next week she should start to look finished.
These are taken as they are working on the boat, and I am doing my best to stay out of their way.
The first few pics have some condensation on the lens, then they clear up.
Reds are house batteries, yellows are starting.
Genny
Genny Cover
Steering pump, Navnet 3D Blackbox.
E-Z Anchor Puller anyone?
In the Bilge
Pretty from the side....
Taken from under the trailer of the glassed in ducer.
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