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I'm sure you are right. I really don't care. I will admit having a personal avoidance of white outboards for over two decades. And the point you make is symantics really. Just swap them and isolate the problem to the upper or lower section.
Not here to pick nits.
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Yamaha or any other manufacture has nothing to do with this persons issue, so why mention them?? I really would appreciate if you would pass the BPR pipe that you must be puffing on as it must be top notch to be spewing such blatant krap. I honestly feel sorry for the person with the issues, but your lame attempts to explain them is quite...
Pot calling kettle black isn't it?...I feel sorry for him too, the manufacturer's are not stepping up to the plate right now, hope your zukes keep performing well, Hate to see if you're next on the list for poor customer service.....it has all relevance to his thread....If the manufacturer's were loaded with money in a great economy....his problem would have been handled....someone from BRP would have stepped in....I am using Yamaha as a great example that this is an industry wide problem that we are experiencing....
Just a thought here, you can eliminate the water pump and pick up and all lower plumbing by simply swapping the lower units and going for a ride. Swap the lowers and props. The handles will shift backwards but who cares. Its one boat ride and will tell you for sure 100% if the issue is in the power head or water delivery system.
Hasnt anyone done this yet?
Good luck
I think that's a great idea....it would eliminate guess work at this point....
All I am saying is that Yamaha or any other manufacture has nothing to do with the O.P's current BRP issues. Your continual dragging of corrosion issues related to Yamaha's has no place in this thread, is that supposed to make the O.P feel better about the pony ride that he is on? It is like taking your Ford in for service they telling you that your transmission is shot and someone telling you.. oh Chevy is having problems with theres too and I would say thanks.. I feel much better now. wtf?
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Pot calling kettle black isn't it?...I feel sorry for him too, the manufacturer's are not stepping up to the plate right now, hope your zukes keep performing well, Hate to see if you're next on the list for poor customer service.....it has all relevance to his thread....If the manufacturer's were loaded with money in a great economy....his problem would have been handled....someone from BRP would have stepped in....I am using Yamaha as a great example that this is an industry wide problem that we are experiencing....
__________________ My Suzuki 200's have tons of Torque, please no more lame talk about having to change the oil. Fish On...
The reason im not pointing at the pressure relief valve is because i took it out of the equasion, i removed it with the same overheat results, the boat would be a fantastic drag racing boat, it runs a mile like a bat out of hell then overheats, the gearcase is a standard genuine M type gearcase.
Why would you remove the pressure valve? Wouldn't removing the valve cause the motor to overheat since your dropping the overall water pressure in the motor by letting it all bleed into the exhaust? Wouldn't you want to use a heavier spring in the valve and not a lighter one?
Slayride, with what outboardkiller is stating about the first dealer, and the improper installation of the water pumps, and such, I was wondering....Were they an authorized BRP Evinrude dealer with Legitimate Certified Technicians?...Because, I'm now wondering, these problems showed up after they serviced it, and alot was done incorrectly there....I would think they would share in some responsibility due to the fact of the incorrect service, and are you seeking a refund for them due to that fact?
Just a thought here, you can eliminate the water pump and pick up and all lower plumbing by simply swapping the lower units and going for a ride. Swap the lowers and props. The handles will shift backwards but who cares. Its one boat ride and will tell you for sure 100% if the issue is in the power head or water delivery system.
Hasnt anyone done this yet?
Good luck
we tried that a few weeks ago, port still ran hot, but port did not overheat. stbd also ran hot, but no overheat. i had the techs put the lower units back as brp had origonaly designed. and we still overheat like clockwork.
last i heard on friday, there was the possiblity that the the mid housing was reassembled with a pinched gasket, that could now be causing the overheat. maybe the new mid water tube solved the issue, and a pinched gasket on reassembly caused the overheat?
supposed to tear engine apart again on tuesday or wednesday to look @ latest issue.
Slayride, with what outboardkiller is stating about the first dealer, and the improper installation of the water pumps, and such, I was wondering....Were they an authorized BRP Evinrude dealer with Legitimate Certified Technicians?...Because, I'm now wondering, these problems showed up after they serviced it, and alot was done incorrectly there....I would think they would share in some responsibility due to the fact of the incorrect service, and are you seeking a refund for them due to that fact?
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dealer 1 is a certified brp evinrude shop - listed on the evinrude website. dont know the status of its techs or their certifications. i assume that they are certified ??? but you know how that goes when you assume.............
dealer 1 is a certified brp evinrude shop - listed on the evinrude website. dont know the status of its techs or their certifications. i assume that they are certified ??? but you know how that goes when you assume.............
Yeah..I know....this is why I always say the service dealer can make or break a good engine relationship, any manufacturer.....the dealer is the front line....good luck with it.
I'm now wondering, these problems showed up after they serviced it, and alot was done incorrectly there....
I read the entire post as I've had a similar situation in the past. Could an overheat situation have caused a warp somewhere allowing air to be sucked in somehow?
latest update -- wednesday morning -- dealer # 3 has found a water pump problem (that i could not understand the explanation, will get more clarification on next phone call) and we have an exhaust gasket problem that requires that the power head be removed, again, and the mid section be taken apart, again.
so maybe another seatrail on thursday, after everything is reassembled.
While I am sure that I will be tared and feathered for this.. No way would I ever have confidence in this rig as it appears that it has had so many wrenches on it. So before you start flaming me it would not matter the color or brand. I find it pretty hard to believe that for all the dealer support that there must be in South Florida that this issue remains. Best of luck in a final resolution.
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latest update -- wednesday morning -- dealer # 3 has found a water pump problem (that i could not understand the explanation, will get more clarification on next phone call) and we have an exhaust gasket problem that requires that the power head be removed, again, and the mid section be taken apart, again.
so maybe another seatrail on thursday, after everything is reassembled.
__________________ My Suzuki 200's have tons of Torque, please no more lame talk about having to change the oil. Fish On...
While I am sure that I will be tared and feathered for this.. No way would I ever have confidence in this rig as it appears that it has had so many wrenches on it. So before you start flaming me it would not matter the color or brand. I find it pretty hard to believe that for all the dealer support that there must be in South Florida that this issue remains. Best of luck in a final resolution.
we have the best of the best involved at this moment, and i am sure we will see a quick resolution this week.
sounds like the mid water tube replacement may have solved the origonal overheat issue, but we had some engine reaasembly issues that caused it to overheat in a different way.
dont think we have had enough run time on a seatrail to advance to the clear tube testing yet with dealer # 3. i assume that this will be the next step, if the problem has not been resolved.
#1 was the same problem I had only it took my dealer one look to find it. Took me dropping the lower unit a bunch of time over 2 weeks looking for it, not to mention all the misc. parts I replaced during the effort.
I think you've got it this time. Good luck. And grease the heck out of the copper pick up so that grommet doesn't roll next time you're doing a water pump.
Oh yeah, and Congrats on being a Certified Evinrude Coolant System Expert.
#1 was the same problem I had only it took my dealer one look to find it. Took me dropping the lower unit a bunch of time over 2 weeks looking for it, not to mention all the misc. parts I replaced during the effort.
I think you've got it this time. Good luck. And grease the heck out of the copper pick up so that grommet doesn't roll next time you're doing a water pump.
Oh yeah, and Congrats on being a Certified Evinrude Coolant System Expert.
i discussed your post on several occasions with dealer # 2, who assured me that it was impossible that there were any issues with the water pump.
but .... we really should wait for the outcome of the seatrail, before breaking into celebration.
I really would appreciate if you would pass the BPR pipe that you must be puffing on as it must be top notch to be spewing such blatant krap. I honestly feel sorry for the person with the issues, but your lame attempts to explain them is quite...
