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Old 08-09-2009, 05:12 PM
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anyone have any first hand info to share on this boat? I am looking at one with trip 300 verados or trip 350 Yamahas. Any info would be greatly appreciated regarding ride, performance etc,
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I would definatly get the 350 Yams if you are thinking of buying that big heavy monster. Personally I would go with a more efficient hull like a YF or some of the other stepped hulls. Personally I would either get the 36' YF, 36' Invincible or 38' Fountain. If I was going any bigger than that without a doubt it would be the 42' YF. IMO, YF has the best ride and quality.
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Talked to the owner of a Venture 39 with triple Verados. He owned two 34 Ventures before this boat and when I asked him how he likes the boat he said it was OK but if he had it to do over again he would be getting a 41 Bahama that Henley in Jupiter sells. This guy could afford anyting he wanted and after a test ride on the Bahama he was sold. I have no idea if you were looking at a new boat or used and what price range the Bahama 41 is compared to the Venture but for the kind of money boats in this price range cost I would be looking at Yellow Fin and Bahama along with Venture. Certainly not saying anything bad about Venture but there are other boats to look at.
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the Bahama is the sickest, cleanest, most well thought out boat i have ever been on. That being said, i dont think i could fish off one for the fear of getting it dirty. Plus the price tag is for people with alot of disposable income. For half the money i would get a proven Fountain hull that does 75 with trip 300 Verados.
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Interesting comparisons...... All of the boats mentioned are worthy of consideration, so I am going to add my comments. First, I am personally not a fan of balsa cored construction or stepped hulls unless speed is your goal. The Venture 39 is a heavy boat and I'm sure that size for size, a Yellowfin, with its balsa coring, would be lighter and faster.

I feel the Bahama 31 is a very, very good hull and actually rides a notch drier than the similar Venture 34 because of its additional pair of strakes. The Bahama 41 has superb fit and finish and comes with lots of ammenities. The best part is that Scott Henley and his crew are great to work with. But I also feel the Bahama 41 has an inherent balance problem and is basically bow heavy. Sea trial one and note the fact that you can never feel it come off or on plane. My guess is that it is a result of the very long fuel tanks adding a significant amount of weight to the bow. The boat rides well as a result, but the speeds are down from what you'd expect based on the horsepower. I talked to Scott about cutting down the tank length, but he respectfully disagrees about there being any problem that needs fixing. That's why there are sea trials.

The big Venture is a very well mannered hull with a very smooth ride. I'd love to have someone demonstrate to me that a lighter weight Yellowfin will outride it when the weather gets ugly. I'll be the first to agree that a Yellowfin or a Fountain will outrun it in a speed contest. Still, it were my dollars, the Venture would get the nod for ride, quality, materials and fit and finish. Also, Chris Arutt at Venture is a charter member of the World's nicest people club.
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My little experince with these 2 boats probably wont help much BUT at least its more to think about. My friend purchased the light blue 27 Venture they used in the ads. Very nice boat but it has had too many little issues that boat of this quality should not have. I realize these might not all lead back to Venture but like I said, you pay well into the 6 figures for a 27 boat and it should be damn near perfect. Within I year of purchase he replaced- all bilge pumps, all macerator pumps, the head pumped INTO the console, 1 trim tab was missing on a rough day in. Things like this. Is does have a nice layout and ride (200 Opti's) I forget was he tops at.

I won the 31 Bahama promo boat. The layout of that thing is sick! The 11' beam gives you plenty of room. The overall fit and finish is way better than Venture but the boats do share alot in common (since Scott whan the main guy behind both). The 31 with 275's with run 54MPH. They had a 41 inside being finished when we picked up the 31. It had trip Yamaha 350's. One hell of a boat!

That being said, Saturday I went out with a friend that has a 34 Yellowfin with trip 300's. From St Augustine t the ledge we did come off 52MPH, just cruising along! The ride was incredible, the speed was crazy, and the 300's really pushed the boat well. The only bad thing I can say about it is that some of the stainless already showed a little rust along the edges (boat is an '08).

My choice in order after being on all three of these boat (Yellowfin only once) would be Yellowfin, Bahama, then Venture (I think you would get better service after the sale from Yellowfin and Bahama as well, not sure about the Venture (Sundance Marine took care of the issues for him)
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Look under the for sale section, although not 39's and not new, it seems that all the Venture owners decided to sell their boats! I think I counted 4 list for sale that posted over the weekend! Thats the most I have seen. If you are looking at used a couple sound like really good deals.
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Can't comment on the head, but how do you blame a manufacturer for the pumps going bad? They use Rule pumps (which everyone uses), Jabsco macerators (which everyone uses), Lenco tabs (same story here), I could understand if the wiring was shoddy or there were stress cracks everywhere, but it's kinda hard to blame a manufacturer when quality products are used, but like everything, even they fail.

Personally, I don't think there is a better riding hull out there than the 39 Venture. I have ridden in everything, sold Fountains for years, been on plenty of Yellowfins and Invincibles and when the going gets rough, there is no better place to be than on a straight deep vee slogging through the crap. It may not be the fastes or lightest, but when you want a rough water boat, it's hard to beat. Triple 300 Verados will hit 60 light and the 350 yamahas will hit 65 light, if you need to go faster, quads are an option...go for a ride, you will be sold...
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Can't comment on the head, but how do you blame a manufacturer for the pumps going bad? They use Rule pumps (which everyone uses), Jabsco macerators (which everyone uses), Lenco tabs (same story here), I could understand if the wiring was shoddy or there were stress cracks everywhere, but it's kinda hard to blame a manufacturer when quality products are used, but like everything, even they fail.

Personally, I don't think there is a better riding hull out there than the 39 Venture. I have ridden in everything, sold Fountains for years, been on plenty of Yellowfins and Invincibles and when the going gets rough, there is no better place to be than on a straight deep vee slogging through the crap. It may not be the fastes or lightest, but when you want a rough water boat, it's hard to beat. Triple 300 Verados will hit 60 light and the 350 yamahas will hit 65 light, if you need to go faster, quads are an option...go for a ride, you will be sold...
I understand and agree about the pumps and there were some other issues as well. I talked about this problem over the weekend with my friend on the Yellowfin- crazy you can spend over $200K on a boat and other than the hull, somebody else makes almost everything! Too bad the boat manufacture gets the bad rap for it. The rust that is showing of his boat is from stainless that obviously Yellowfin did not produce BUT they boat it to put on their boat!

This all being said and the issues my friend went through with the 27 Venture- he has now put close to 800 hours on it and he does love the boat.

Sundance- Am I correct that this 27 was sold through your store, a guy named Mark I believe? Very nice sales guy and he took care of several of the issues no questions!
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I would definatly get the 350 Yams if you are thinking of buying that big heavy monster. Personally I would go with a more efficient hull like a YF or some of the other stepped hulls. Personally I would either get the 36' YF, 36' Invincible or 38' Fountain. If I was going any bigger than that without a doubt it would be the 42' YF. IMO, YF has the best ride and quality.
Come on! A 36 yellow fin or a 38 Fountain over a 39 Venture? Please! Not everyone needs to go 60. The 39 Venture is a beautiful boat and is extremely well laid out! Ran one out of Jupiter and I beleive we saw 50's. Either way it is a first class semi custom ride. If you want to be one of those kitty cat food chasers then maybe a step bottom boat is for you.

I would put in the class of the 39 Sea Vee, 41 Bahama and or 38 Jupiter.
In my opinion the 42YF is too big for trips.
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I understand and agree about the pumps and there were some other issues as well. I talked about this problem over the weekend with my friend on the Yellowfin- crazy you can spend over $200K on a boat and other than the hull, somebody else makes almost everything! Too bad the boat manufacture gets the bad rap for it. The rust that is showing of his boat is from stainless that obviously Yellowfin did not produce BUT they boat it to put on their boat!

This all being said and the issues my friend went through with the 27 Venture- he has now put close to 800 hours on it and he does love the boat.

Sundance- Am I correct that this 27 was sold through your store, a guy named Mark I believe? Very nice sales guy and he took care of several of the issues no questions!
I agree, we have these problems all the time with all of the manufacturers, you are at the mercy of the people who make the parts that go into it unfortunately! That boat is a great boat and runs really well with only a pair of 200s, my cousin has number 4 I think, the one your friend has number 1, fantastic layout and a super smooth ride.
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Hey Tripleplay, Didn't you own a 36 YF at one point? I am also looking at some used 39 Ventures and a new 36YF. The Venture has a ton of storage and a huge cockpit. The 39 would be a killer islands or Sailfish tourney boat. It seems like there are some killer deals on used ones and a ton of boat for the $? The two boats have very different rides but are both awesome sea boats. I might give the YF a slight edge in ride. I also just love the Yellowfin lines and service. In my limited research the Venture gets about 1 to 1 @ 40 any faster and the burn numbers jump WAY up. The Yellowfin is 5-10mph faster @ 1 to 1. IM if you would like to compare notes and research. Boat great boats.
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Tripleplay, what year is the 39 Venture your looking at? I agree with the above that the rough water ride is great and Henley does an excellent job rigging and servicing after the sale. The 41 Bahama is also a nice ride with your choice of power just depends on the deal your getting.

Kerno- I'm curious why you felt the 41 Bahama has a balance problem? I ran one during the Miami Boat Show, through the cut and into the Atlantic we ran upwards of 50 mph through chop and wakes and the boat didnt hunt down sea at all.
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I rode the same 41í at the Miami show last year, and I agree with Kernoís comments. Firstly, the seas werenít really big enough to make any kind of ride judgments, so all we really had to go on was speed.

I rode the 38í Fountain back to back with the Bahama, and while Iíd be the first to admit they are two different boats for two totally different markets, I was taken aback by the speed differences. With same power, the Fountain was about 22 mph faster. That is a huge difference. While the steps and the go fast focus of the Fountain explain some of the difference, that is too big a discrepancy to just wave away.

In retrospect, the Bahama did not seem to get any lift at all, so the perception was that there was no bow rise and no feeling of coming on or off plane. It was almost like a semi-displacement hull, just no lift. I canít honestly call this a flaw, you donít get to 50-52 with a semi-displacement hull, and to be sure there was no evidence of bow steer or any bad manners. This comment is not meant as a criticism, this boat was a near perfection as it gets, it is just a curious observation. I would love to own one.

I would like to ride this boat again in some more aggressive seas, maybe a superior ride would show itself, but in the calm conditions of last years Miami boat show, Iím having a hard time understanding where the 20+mph went.
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Kerno- I'm curious why you felt the 41 Bahama has a balance problem? I ran one during the Miami Boat Show, through the cut and into the Atlantic we ran upwards of 50 mph through chop and wakes and the boat didn't hunt down sea at all.

Darbikrash sums it up pretty well. The boat never gave the sensation of coming on or off plane. The running attitude remained almost constant, no matter what the speed. We all expect some bow rise when the boat is coming up on plane or the sensation of the stern falling in the hole as it comes off plane. I had the opportunity to bring the boat both on and off plane a couple times and concluded there is no perceptible point where it occurs. The boat accelerated dead flat with no bow rise. When slowing, it just kept going slower and slower and the bow stayed down. You could not feel the point at which the stern settled. The boat had a full load of fuel on board and did not exhibit any handling quirks. But it also felt stuck to the water, a sensation that was confirmed by the speedometer.

I did did get the opportunity to watch the Bahama 41 go by at speed and was looking closely to see where the water broke out from under the hull. The break point appeared to be a little farther forward than I would have anticipated, but that could have been a function of the speed. I am very impressed with the Bahama 31 and came very close to buying one. Its planing behavior is exactly as I'd expected. I ultimately bought a Venture 34 and am very impressed with it.
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Wow all great issues and yes I have had a 32,34 and 36 YF and 2 -38 Fountains. I am looking to do a little more blue water fishing than I have in the past vs kingfishing. I fish a little with my father in law and would like a little more comfort and cockpit space. I have always enjoyed speed but looking to split the difference. the 39 Venture I am looking at is a leftover 2008 with trip verados. Thanks for the good info.
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I just went through this whole process and obviously you can see where I ended up, but all these boats are great and I know this is said all the time, but you just need to go run each one and see what fits "you" the best. The Miami show really is perfect for this, as I was able to climb all over the boats for hours and get out there and run each one.

That being said, the only thing that really hung me up on the Venture was the forward step in the deck. This may be a non issue for others, but not ideal for me. I have a friend with the 34 Venture and it is a great boat and they love it.

Good luck and I would be happy to answer any questions on the 39 Sea Vee.
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To the original TS. I am sorry I posted my rant inside of your thread. I guess I need to listen to my own words. I just get aggravated sometimes. Anyway, good luck with your boat search!
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Every boat is a compromise. I thought about the 39 and had I gone with a bigger Center console it probably would have been my choice. As it is my next ride will be a flybridge boat.. for the fam etc... I know the Venture product and am very happy with it. I am far less concerned with speed than comfort and functionality.
Would another boat like YF be more economical and faster? Sure, but thats not the whole ticket for me. How often can you run 40kts in the ocean? It seems like less than 10% of the time for me anyway.

All good choices, but that Venture 39 looks badass!
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Don't forget about that new 37T contender either...I have been hearing it is the best fishing platform you can buy in a CC. I have also heard the ride is second to none in the cc category. I have a good buddy that is looking very hard at one. I think you could save a little money, gain a little speed, still have the feel of a non-stepped conventional vee, and have superior fishability.
Furthermore, I too would get a 36 invincible, NEW STYLE 36 yellowfin, or a 38 fountain over that venture. You save so much money and cruising at 20 mph faster burning less fuel just can't be beat. My favorite of the stepped hulls is the 36 Invincible due to its layout...but you can't go wrong with any of them. I think the 39 venture is an incredible boat, but sort of impractical when you look at its speed, efficiency, and price tag. Just my .02 cents
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