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Old 05-26-2009, 06:50 PM
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I have a 19' Carolina Skiff V series in my yard. I want to put a 35 hp Johnson 2 stroke (remote center console) on it.
What kind of speed/performance can I expect? Anyone run this rig?

the boat will spend it's days deploying oil spill boom in the Passaic River, NJ. It will never see the ocean or even the choppy NY harbor.

I'm tempted to go bigger, but we need fuel economy and have no need to go fast. Also self bailing is very important. As we have to work in the rain, and will have to leave the boat in the rain.

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I'm not sure if this is any help or not, but I have a Semi-V 238. I believe this is the same hull you are asking about, just longer. Mine has a Yamaha 115 4-stroke on it. Performance is lackluster, but I can run up to about 40mph. It sips gas - this boat is very economical to run.

This boat rides very rough in chop and is very wet, but as you say, you may not care.

About the water/rain portion of your question, I can't verify if it's self-bailing or not, as I've never tried...However, I'm sure it is based on how it runs and where the plugs are located.

It will hold a TON of water if required. I pumped well over 200 gallons of water out of mine this Sunday. It rained all night Saturday and Sunday morning, while I had it tied to my dock. My 500 gph bilge pump ran for 25 mins after I turned it on. (I have an auto float switch, but did not have the pump set to that position.) The boat was sitting perhaps 4" lower in the water in the back. I could have had 3 to 4 times that amount of water in the boat before it was in any danger of capsizing. It's a tank. Carolina Skiffs are great work/fishing boats that can take a lot of abuse.
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Thanks for your comments. We need the boat to sit in the water with the two outboard scuppers open so any rain water will simply flow out. I have heard complaints from owners here that when they put a large engine ie 4 cylinder these scuppers will actually sit below the waterline.

I know these boats will hold plenty of water. The one I have was literally being used a dumpster and was full of junk and rain water. It's amazing the trailer didn't buckle under the weight.
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I just sold my 19 foot flat bottom standard Carolina Skiff. It came with a 50 hp Merc. 2 stroke. With two big guys in it 400 pounds total it would have trouble getting up on plane. It only got better when I put a 70hp 4 stroke on it. With the 50 and especially the 70 the drain holes in the rear were below waterline. I put ball valves on but they didn't work that well. Ended up making a well and putting a bilge pump in it.

I replaced it this year with an 18 foot Carolina Skiff Sea Chaser rolled gunnel model. It will selfbail which surprised me. Overall they are a tough line of boats. Mine took a lot of abuse and did a lot of work.
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I'd think that you would get better economy with a 70 to 100 horse engine, the 35 horse Johnson's were not very strong engines.
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With my 238 the outboard drains are above the waterline. Evidently, judging from 10Penny's experience, it depends on the hull and possibly the length/motor combo though. All I can say is mine is the same hull as you have, with 'V-Series' painted on the side.
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it is likely self bailing at the dock with nobody on board. But, if you get on the boat with the plugs out, water will come in and wet your feet. Carolinaskiffowner web site has a ton of this type information.
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I had the same boat with a 60 Johnrude, then a 112... I believe a 35 would work fine on it for your useage. With a 35, I would mount everything as far aft as possible. With the 60 on mine, plugs out, water would collect forward, 2-3" deep before it hit the transom drains. I moved my 26gal? (Montauk Whaler) tank from under the console to under the rear deck so it would self drain.

Here is the layout on her with the 112 Special on it, floated correct, but used ping pong ball scuppers to keep it dry...
Well nothing keeps one of these dry
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Silverbk, your name wouldn't happen to begin with a "P", would it?

Having been involved in a similar operation sometime ago, I believe that your biggest issue, will be generating enough thrust to overcome the effects of the tide when you're either deploying, or retrieving the boom, against a tide. A 35 HP outboard may come up short in that area. It will at least need a large diameter, low-pitch prop and a Kort nozzle to help it generate the necessary bollard-pull against the drag of the boom.
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My 238 self bails with a 150 on it.

As for the 35HP, you should be fine if you are only looking to plow through the water. Make sure the prop is pitched right.
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Silverbk, your name wouldn't happen to begin with a "P", would it?

Having been involved in a similar operation sometime ago, I believe that your biggest issue, will be generating enough thrust to overcome the effects of the tide when you're either deploying, or retrieving the boom, against a tide. A 35 HP outboard may come up short in that area. It will at least need a large diameter, low-pitch prop and a Kort nozzle to help it generate the necessary bollard-pull against the drag of the boom.
You must be thinking of my partner who is "known" in the area. My name also starts with a P.
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You must be thinking of my partner who is "known" in the area. My name also starts with a P.
Yes, say hello to "PL" for me
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