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Old 05-13-2009, 03:56 PM
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I am having some really uneven tire wear. The outside of my trailer tires are wearing to bald, but in a choppy mannner. If you can help me diagnose the problem, I would appreciate it. I hate to put new tires on so soon. They are only one year old.
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Exact same problem I had after about 5000 miles. I replace the bias with radial trailer tires. I checked the balance of the trailer, then put a weight equalizing hitch, and (if you use and "equalizer" you can still use the surge brakes, just don't use an anti sway bar. I also made sure that the trailer is absolutely level when loaded and hitched up. I have put another 5,000 miles on the trailer and the tires look fine.

It looks as if you have springs--I had torsin axels--You may also want to double check the axel alignment.
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I agree with Thataway, I would go with radial tires and make sure they are balanced.
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I have maybe 1500 miles on these tires.
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I'm guessing a misaligned axle (wheel). Single axle? What boat and trailer?
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It looks like you showed us three different tires so unless all your axles are out of alignment,(which I doubt), I tend to agree with the suggestion for radials.
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actually, it is photos of the same or the same two one one side. It was only happening on one side of the trailer. it si a 2360 sailfish, but I am going blank on the trailer type. It is a dual axle and the tires are Carlise.
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Those look like carsile tires, switch to Denman radials, problem solved!
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I had a problem like that on my trailer and it seem to come from when I moved my boat a little up on the trailer. It ate the insides of the front tires up just like that.

I moved the boat back to where it used to be and it seems to have solved the problem but I would also agree that the normal carilise trailer tires do not last too long.

I think next time I will go with the radials
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I'm guessing a misaligned axle (wheel). Single axle? What boat and trailer?
X 2 Also get radials after getting the axel aligned.
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are you binding the tires up when back up, if you have to cut to sharp of an angle you are going to wear out the outside edges. My driveway is at a crazy ange and I wore a set out pretty quick, now I just take less of an angle and run over some of the grass.
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Hate to bear bad news, but you gotta get rid of those tires and you also have to check the alignment of your axles. Mis-aligned axles are VERY common in smaller trailers. I would either string them or a VERY straight 2x4 or similar item. I will bet 10 to 1 that your tires point in two different directions. Don't worry so much about squaring the tires with the hitch, but if the tires are pointing in different directions, you will get wear like you have.

I check these things in the trailer lot now with a string before I buy now. You'd be surprised how many you'll find.

Most often, depending on the axle set up you have, its not the axle mount that's crooked, but where the spindle is welded to the axle, or where the spindle mount is welded depending on your type.

You also have to be careful, this is the quickest way to loosen lug nuts also. The sideways torque will loosen the nuts just enough to tear the center section off the wheel. I had a bout with this scenario a couple of years ago. It's a dangerous situation that is only cured by aligning the axles. Haven't had a tire or lug nut problem sinse.
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are you binding the tires up when back up, if you have to cut to sharp of an angle you are going to wear out the outside edges. My driveway is at a crazy ange and I wore a set out pretty quick, now I just take less of an angle and run over some of the grass.

I was originally thinking this was it. I pull it in my driveway and sometimes I noted that i just spun on the tires. I also park it in a warehouse where I turn it pretty much the same way. That woould be a better answer, but maybe I am wishing. I can try to reduce this.
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My trailer ate up bias ply tires at prodigious rates, now with thousands of miles on my radials, very little wear at all. Bias ply sucks.
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carlisle tires suck!
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The tires on my trailer looked exactly like your photo. I put two brand new bias ply trailer tires on before making a trip. I towed my boat about 500 miles to Florida without a problem . Tires looked brand new when I got there but on the ride home at 70 to 75 on the interstate with a bad cross wind the trailer was swaying as I passed semi rig's. By the time I got home my tires looked just like yours. Bottem line is my boat is on the borderline of being to heavy for a single axel trailer. On a local trip or interstate towing it's fine as long as I dont hit a day with high winds. If I towed it more often would have to buy a two axel trailer to solve the problem. Oh yes I have been warned about bias tires and reccommend radials just don't jump a curb on a tight turn and pinch the sidewall they dont like to touch anything at all since the sidewalls are only two ply and you will be putting on the spare. Hope this helps.
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I have maybe 1500 miles on these tires.
Radials and balanced.
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I really appreciate all the help. in consider ing whether it is an an axle problem, the wer is on both axles on the same side of the trailer. if it was an axle problem, would the wear pattern be outside of one side, inside of other side of same axle. the other sides tires show normal wear (great shape). I hate to replace with radials as I think I would have to do all four, I would appreciate more comments about wear pattern from misaligned axles.
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I really appreciate all the help. in consider ing whether it is an an axle problem, the wer is on both axles on the same side of the trailer. if it was an axle problem, would the wear pattern be outside of one side, inside of other side of same axle. the other sides tires show normal wear (great shape). I hate to replace with radials as I think I would have to do all four, I would appreciate more comments about wear pattern from misaligned axles.

I have no idea if your axles are to blame without more information, but picture this;

Looking at your trailer from the back;

The left side tires are perfectly aligned with each other, as you tow down the road these tires track perfectly straight.

On the right side however, both tires have a 1/4" of toe in. In other words, both tires are facing "left" or facing the center of the trailer. These tires would always be at odds with the straight tracking left side of the trailer and would forever be scrubbing rubber off the right side of the tires at a higher rate then the rest of that tire as well as the left tires.

This was the situation with my axles and the wear was very predictable. It's really a simple test. measure with a tape measure halfway up your tires and put a chalk mark at that point on both tires.

Take a string (in calm weather), stand behind the rear tire by a foot or two, hold the string at the chalk mark, gently touching the tire, have someone a foot or two in front of the front tire with the other end of the string, at the height of the chalk mark. Have the front person gently bring the string into the tire until it gently touches the front of the front tire. At this point, the string should be gently touching the back and front of both the rear and forward tires simultaneously.

At least you could eliminate this as a problem area and go get some new tires and your problem is fixed.
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I just explained the problem to a very reputable trailer shop here. he immediately asked if it was the right side of the trailer. I said it was. he rather certainly opined i had bent the axles (both) by hitting a pot hole or curb (yeah I do that doesn't everyone). said I needed to replace the axles. suggested I do a test like above. said my trailer was riding on the outside of the tire on that side. Is "bending the axle" the same as "misaligned" that everyone is mentioning. I just thought that meant mounted wrong on the springs.
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