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Old 05-03-2004, 08:07 PM
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Default 12 ft. vs. 14 ft. Jon Boat

I'm interested in purchasing a wide beam 12' or 14' jon boat for fishing around the Richmond, VA area (Briery Creek, Sandy River Reservoir, James River). I've got a 1998 5 HP Evinrude I will be using with the boat along with a Minn Kota 40 lb. thrust trolling motor.

Can anyone shed any light on which I should buy, keeping several variables in mind (i.e. weight, stability, potential to float the James)

Any insight greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-03-2004, 08:37 PM
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I do not think that 5 will plane either one.

A 12 ft 55" beam will max hp at 10 or 15 and weigh about 130 lbs

A 14 ft 55" beam will max at 15 or 20 hp and weigh 150-170 lbs

You can get a 14 ft 60" or 70" beam 25 to 30 max hp and weighs 240 to 300 lbs.

All welded boats cost more as do heavier gauge metal. They also require more horsepower.

If a bigger engine isn't possible I would go with a 12 foot.

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Old 05-03-2004, 08:46 PM
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Default RE: 12 ft. vs. 14 ft. Jon Boat

My family has a 14 ft. aluminum boat with three electric trolling motors. With two people in the boat, a couple 12 volt batteries, life jackets, fishing rods, tackle box, etc, it gets crowded. If you plan to fish by yourself, you might be able to get away with the 12 footer, but if you plan on taking out two people or more, go with the 14.
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:01 AM
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i had a 14' ft jon boat with a 9.9 that could really get up and go. when i was much younger i could pull two of my friends on kneeboards at the same time. the 9.9 died on me after years of abuse and i got a 15hp for it. the tin can is a rocket now and is border line unsafe when it's just me in the boat. depending on how much weight you plan to carry the 5 hp may or may not be enough for a 12' but i think for a 14' you should get a 9.9hp. i don't think the 5hp engine is going to be able to push the 14 footer.
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:52 AM
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I also have a 14 with a 7.5, when it still ran, which hopefully it will be again after some repairs this weekend, the 7.5 pushed it just fine with two people.
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Old 05-04-2004, 09:59 AM
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Wait a minute.... "Y&R" from Charleston..... that wouldn't happen to stand for "Young and the Restless" would it?
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I run a 5 hp on a 12 footer with a 50" beam. Usual load is me (220lbs), Motor (50 lbs), gas (20 lbs), trolling motor/battery (60 lbs), fishing junk (20 lbs) and a cooler The boat planes like a champ and will run about 18 mph (by GPS). I fish the estuaries and ponds of New England with it. It's great - fits on the truck top, I can haul it a few hundred yards when I need to and it is zero maintenance.
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Old 05-04-2004, 10:41 AM
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And I have a 12' fiberglass jon boat. It's a trihull model from the 70's. There is no identifying name, make, or model on the boat. It is narrow and has a bottom of only 38-40". It's a very light boat.

I have a 15hp evinrude 2 stroke. With me and a full tank of gas planes easily an probably runs 20. With two, planes easily but slower. I had three out the other day and never made plane. Lugged about 1/2 planing speed.

I'd not think 5hp would be enough to plane the boat but would certainly get you around. Planing speed is nice in that you don't have to spend as much time between fishing spots. I've looked at replacing my hull for a wider aluminum boat bet they are all heavier than my crappy littly john boat. I love my crappy little boat however. Just wish it had a wider base for stability.
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Old 05-04-2004, 02:58 PM
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When I was a kid my brother and I ran a 14' x 6' (5' bottom) wide jon boat with a 1960's vintage 3.5 hp.
Granted we each only weighted about 100 lbs, but it would plane fine.
How much difference in weight is there between a 12' and 14' jon boat?
I would think a wider 14' boat would offset the weight difference, and help the boat plane.
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Stan,
Y&R does stand for Young and the Restless. That used to be my THT name until the switch over decided to not let me use it any more. Do I know you?
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We've never spoken, but I've spoken with your brother a few times, most recently about a particular piece of property on the river..... can you guess who I am?
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Old 05-04-2004, 03:38 PM
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uh, no... mainly b.c i don't have a brother.
haha, that's pretty funny though.
just out of curiousity, does this guy's brother have the same name for his boat?
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I thought you were chumbucket or deerhunter00, you all had those daytime television names for a while in the Charleston Jonboat Club. Are you stretch? WHo are you? I thought Deerhunter was Y&R....
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not Stretch although I have read some of his posts before. Whatever happened to him? I haven't seen a post of his in a while on CF.com
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Stop playing games with my emotions! Who the hell are you?
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damn Y&R...you got a stalker!
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Yea, this is kind of freaking me out unless Stan is a hot 5'8 blond beauty in which case I've died and gone to heaven.
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I am a 5-8 blond beauty, as a matter of fact, but male and heterosexual.


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yea, maybe i should've clarified on the gender..... FEMALE, blond beauty
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Have you been pleased with your Key West 2300 WA. I'm a current Key West owner and have been very pleased. I'm looking closely at upgrading to the 2300 WA or CC.
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