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Old 01-31-2009, 07:08 AM   #1
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Default Nassau 3204 New Boat Looks like a 31 Bertram

These guys have introduced a new boat that looks like it popped out of a 31 Bertram mold. www.bright-side.net/marine
They should have picked a better hull color though. I understand the boat will be at the Miami Show.
Supposed to do 40 mph; here is part of an email they sent me.

We are very proud of this project. Many months of hard work and planning have resulted in what we believe to be the next legendary classic sport fishing boat. If you are impressed with the video, I can tell you that when you get to see the boat in person, you will truly be amazed. I have worked hard to ensure that this vessel is quality, in every inch of the boat. In areas that you can see and in areas that are hidden from view, we have attempted to build a quality yacht. Every hatch is finished on the underside for better durability. Surfaces on the underside are smooth finish. We always opted for better hardware in every application. Pop-up cleats are just one of many of the modern innovations that we chose to use on this boat. The rope locker is smooth finish and sealed from the V-berth area to keep the smell and moisture where is belongs. Unlike its predecessors, our boat is balanced when on plane and provides a very dry ride. By re-designing critical areas, we have achieved a faster boat, with fantastic fuel economy. We can maintain speeds over 40 mph and a range of 500+ miles on a single tank of fuel.
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:10 AM   #2
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Looks nice. I wish the would put some specs on the sight. Fuel, Engine size, speed, where they are built, build time and Cost. All in all looks like a hell of a boat.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:01 PM   #3
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I have an email of a brochure. I guess they have not go it up on the site. I think I may also have some video.
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sounds like a "yes-man" to me....the first pic in their gallery is bogus. Also in some of the pics it seems to sit really high. But then in other pics it doesnt.

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Old 01-31-2009, 01:17 PM   #5
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That's a Bertram 31 with a bow pulpit and no bathroom.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:20 PM   #6
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I've always liked the 31. This boat certainly looks like they popped a mold off an old hull (and the web site alludes to that as well). One thing I noticed when looking at the pictures on their site was the chines are pretty far out of the water - maybe 6-8 inches. That would lead me to believe she will be much more tender than the original. I wish them luck with this new product.

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I found the specs and whatnot on their site. Click on the Nassau 3204 button. Most of what you asked about was there.
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Very nice. A little dusty, but very nice. [img]../images/emoticons/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:17 PM   #8
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A couple months back the guy posted on the 31B site. Boy did he get heat. The 31B guys got their panties all knotted up. The poor guy's brochure was just pics of 31B's at the time. Some of the owners of pictured boats even talked about suing. I don't remember if it was popped off a Bertram or not or if the guy even said. The 31B guys ripped it apart because it is cored, some were pi$$ed because someone would dare to built a 31B. I am from the school of give the guy a chance. At least he is trying to re-live The Legend. The folks at Bertram only talked about it and the closest they came was a 36B eurotrash.
Oh by the way doctodd you really don't know me very well!!! Sure I am a "yes man" ha ha ha !! But I will be your Huckleberry.
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The only problem with a re-creation, is the same reason why Bertram stopped selling them in the mid-80's, newer boats (in the 80's it was the Blackfin's, Topaz's, etc) in the same size had more features (better use of space, bigger fuel tanks), less compromises (a super small bridge and two compartment cabin) and ran as good or better.
I'm not saying the 31 Bertram isn't a great boat, but if I were spending $350,000+ for a new 31-33' boat, would I buy one - no I would not.
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The only problem with a re-creation, is the same reason why Bertram stopped selling them in the mid-80's, newer boats (in the 80's it was the Blackfin's, Topaz's, etc) in the same size had more features (better use of space, bigger fuel tanks), less compromises (a super small bridge and two compartment cabin) and ran as good or better.
I'm not saying the 31 Bertram isn't a great boat, but if I were spending $350,000+ for a new 31-33' boat, would I buy one - no I would not.
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Hey guys...
Is it just me or does it look like soft chine??

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I can see where some Bertram aficionados would get upset with some of these statements, the 40Kt to 12Kt comparison is perhaps the most innnacurate:

The new Nassau 3204 will exceed the capabilities and performance of all previous Classic Sportfisherman vessels. Just a few comparisons include: This is your opportunity to own a true custom Sportfisherman at an incredible price. Pricing on Base Models starting at $295,000. Pricing for a 2008 Nassau 3204 Custom is $348,490. Improved Range (500+ miles):
Improved Speed:
Improved Reliability:
Stronger Design:
Latest Technology:
Lighter Design:
Lifetime Hull Warranty
20 gal/hr vs 50 gal/hr
40 knots vs 12 knots
Yan-Mar Diesel Engines
10x stronger hull
Streamlined hull
7800 lbs vs 11,000 lbs


Although they clearly are comparing directly to the Bertram 31, they never use the word Bertram. The performance numbers are very suspect even with the boat weighing much less than a Bert 31. As previoulsy stated, with a 350K budget there are so many better boats to spend your money on including a real 31 Bert like SeaNile. I see this company going nowhere.

http://www.bright-side.net/marine/bsmarine_003.htm
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If Bertram still has a legal department, this thing is going to belong to them.
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Man they are sweet looking boats! I like the color on that too.
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If Bertram still has a legal department, this thing is going to belong to them.

Yeah, just like Whaler owns all the 13' knockoffs. Copyright laws didn't apply to boat design until 1996. Previous art is excluded.
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If Bertram still has a legal department, this thing is going to belong to them.

Yeah, just like Whaler owns all the 13' knockoffs. Copyright laws didn't apply to boat design until 1996. Previous art is excluded.
Maybe Bertram has lawyers that know about intellectual properties other than copyright.
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could have widened the bridge a bit, but yeah she is a copy and I would rather go w/ seaniles boat as well
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I know she is a tribute and not the original but man is she sweet. I wonder how they get up to the bridge with no ladder I understand she is all composite. She must handle like she is on rails. I wonder if the bertrams because they were heavier rode a little better in the rough stuff?
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Sweet looking boat, a new looking Bert without all the headaches of rebuilding. The best rebuild I have seen here is the SeaHottie!
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