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Old 10-12-2008, 08:24 AM
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Default Oil change system- X-Change-R or Reverso?

I'm going to install an oil change system and have narrowed it down to these two (any other suggestions welcomed). For a three-valve system the X-Change-R goes for around $400, and the Reverso is more than twice as much- around $900.
Since it's just some valves and a pump I can't see a reason for such a huge price difference.

I thought about buying just the Reverso pump (around $200) and making my own manifold but seems like I wouldn't save much over the oil x-change-r system by the time all was done (not to mention the hassle of building it)

Anyone have experience with the Oil X-Change-R system (pump reliability)?
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I had a Reverso system and it always worked perfect. It also pumped the oil quickly. I am not any help with the other system you mentioned.
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I'm not familiar with the Oil X-Change system but I have the Reverso pump with a 3 connection manifold. I am very satisfied with the Reverso product. I bought it about 4 years ago for about $500 from West Marine. If it costs $900 today, that's a huge price increase. Since the manifold appears to be simply drilled and threaded Starboard with some valves and fittings attached I'd be tempted to buy the least expensive pump and build my own manifold if I were doing it again. Good luck!
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:52 AM
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I have the oil xchanger. It's great. I didn't remember them being that cheap though.
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:44 PM
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I went with the Reverso pump and didn't sweat the fancy manifold. I installed ball valves right off the engine oil pan drains. Tee these into the Reverso pump. Simpy open the valve of the engine you want to drain and turn the pump on. Turn off the pump, close the valve of the engine you just drained and repeat for the other engines. I never had an issue and saved several hundred dollars.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:35 AM
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$900 is really out of whack. Just looked at the reliable Reverso gear pump system w/3 valve manifold (#GP3013-12) available from an online vender for $560.04. I have had that on my boat for 4 yrs and love it. No way could I reach a ball valve on my engines pan drains but the manifold is right up high & handy just under a hatch by the helm, so easy to use, with a coiled hydraulic hose from the manifold outlet stored on a SS hanger and another brass on/off valve with hose barbs on the end of that outlet hose to control drips when not in use.

In the past I've used impeller types like the X-Change that work fine as well but impellers do need replacement occasionally, so I prefer the gear pump. The gears need just a little oil on them before 1st ever use, then never need priming again, even if engine oil has drained back down. Both types have reversible motors but I only use mine for pumping out, not in, except I used reverse for that very 1st easy priming when just installed.

BTW, Reverso also makes a somewhat less expensive impeller-type oil change pump so if you want the gear pump make sure you buy the right one.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:40 AM
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The X change impellers can be hard to find. I usually have to order them from the factory. That being said they work OK.
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The Reverso system I installed has worked great. I went w/ the larger pump, hoses and fittings. It sucks 8 qts dry in less than 10 seconds.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:31 AM
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$900 is really out of whack. Just looked at the reliable Reverso gear pump system w/3 valve manifold (#GP3013-12) available from an online vender for $560.04. I have had that on my boat for 4 yrs and love it. No way could I reach a ball valve on my engines pan drains but the manifold is right up high & handy just under a hatch by the helm, so easy to use, with a coiled hydraulic hose from the manifold outlet stored on a SS hanger and another brass on/off valve with hose barbs on the end of that outlet hose to control drips when not in use.

In the past I've used impeller types like the X-Change that work fine as well but impellers do need replacement occasionally, so I prefer the gear pump. The gears need just a little oil on them before 1st ever use, then never need priming again, even if engine oil has drained back down. Both types have reversible motors but I only use mine for pumping out, not in, except I used reverse for that very 1st easy priming when just installed.

BTW, Reverso also makes a somewhat less expensive impeller-type oil change pump so if you want the gear pump make sure you buy the right one.
Thanks, guys.
Ended up getting the Reverso impeller pump from Defender. Didn't know about their gear pump, but because of the price diff probably wouldn't have gotten it anyway. I only need to change oil once a year, so the impeller pump will be fine. I think I'll just remove the impeller from the pump so it won't "set up" from non-use.

I did find better pricing (the $900 was from Outer Banks/BW!), but since it was still over $300 diff for the three valve manifold I decided to just build one and mount the whole thing to a starboard panel.
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Sounds good. There's no real rational reason at all that I can see for the ridiculously high prices of these systems. Not complicated stuff. The $900 vs the still high $560 does give you some idea of the greed factor involved.

You'll love the relative simplicity of oil changes with the built-in. I found that extra shutoff valve at the end of the oultet hose very handy , and store it with a rubber cap over the hose barb- no drips.
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The free end on my system stores over a downward rod on the ell bracket to the right and above the pump, on the image of my pump / manifold / valves.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:18 PM
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I have an X-Changer on the Cabo. Does motor oil in both engines and generator very quickly. I'm happy with it.
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