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Old 03-22-2004, 10:58 PM
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There we were, attempting to anchor in Pass Manchac, when along comes a 36-38 foot Formula type speedboat. That "sucker" passed no more than 20 feet abeam at a good 50 knots. The boat proceeded maybe 1/2 mile into the lake and turned around and passed the same distance on the other side at the same speed. I just raised my arms in a WTF frustration ! There was plenty of room for him to pass at a much safer distance either side. Other than the fact that he's responsible for his wake, what else can be done about such stupid, irresponsible, and dangerous boat handling?? It seems here lately that the bigger toys win whether it's on the highway or water !

Has anyone found a good way to handle such situations that I may use in the future? The thought of blasting a hole in the hull was there but fortunately good sense prevaled !

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I have seen that way too many times. It's usually one of those hardly ever used, real big, weekend boaters who makes that sort of inconsiderate and dangerous move. The only thing I have ever observed to have an effect is to quickly pick up your video camera or digital camera and film/snap away as they approach. Get their hull numbr if they have one and their wake. Documenting their negligence seems to cause concern - even amongst the biggest of bozos.
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Old 03-22-2004, 11:22 PM
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Ask around. A boat like that (on a lake?) should be easy to find out more about.
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Old 03-22-2004, 11:24 PM
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Trout, I had a similar experience while out flounder fishing in the ICW. I was drifiting along with about 6 other boats in a channel that's about 60yards across. All day boats pass you but are curtious enough to slow to a reasonable speed. Then along comes hot shot in his 35' speedster going 50 or so and passes within 20 feet of all of us. Of course I threw up the WTF arms and hot shot's girl friend starts tapping him on the shoulder. He turns around and speeds back to us. He then asks what my problem is, which of course I described to him in a most colorful manner. Which of course led to more words from hot shot and his girl. I proceeded to explain to him boating etiquette and safety, and that maybe he wouldn't need such a big fast boat if he were better endowed. I even invited him to step up onto the sod bank to resolve the matter - after he began cursing and threatening me. He declined and sped off, only to retrieve another speedy boat, both of which began to race up and down on either side of us flounder fishermen. We then started to bounce large sinkers off the sides of their hulls and called in the marine police. They didn't return after that. Probably not the best way to handle the situation, but it was a laugh. (Actually, being a Capt. I should know better.) Best bet in any situation like that is to call in the Coast Guard or Marine Police. Make sure you get a good ID on the boat and driver as well as the hull ID #. Follow through on the complaint.
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You don't know Lakes Ponchatrain, and Maurepas, 30' to 50' are common as fleas on a dog. On the typical weekend day you can see all manner of boats in Pass Manchac, cigarettes, cats, dual engine, tripple engines. Also this area is famous for it's lack of comon sense.

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Don't anchor in the pass on a weekend, just to dang much boat traffic to be safe. I would compare fishing in Pass Manchac on a weekend, with playing golf on the interstate hwy in New Orleans. What to do about your buddy in the big boat, well not much you can do, traffic in the pass is not restricted by law or any kind of common sense. I think you lost this round.
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Twentynine,

You're right, we normally fish during the week but as you know last Saturday was very nice. We didn't even get the anchor set , just hoisted it aboard and found a quiet place in Lake Maurepas and set out a couple of lines. Not 10 minutes later a 17 footer came by(slower) and did the same thing.....and not another boat around for at least a mile !! I know there are plenty of courteous boaters out there. That same day a bass tournament was held at North Pass launch. When we launched in the afternoon there must have been 25 boats attempting to call it a day for the weigh in. I was most IMPRESSED by the professional attitudes of these people. One by one they would drop off the partner to get the trailer and the driver would move out away from the launch to make room for the next guy. It was beautiful ! What a difference when a little cooperation is used.

FizzEd,

I really thought of grabbing a handfull of egg sinkers and tossing them his way. But ........

Thank god for the smart people out there!


TwinFin,

A great idea, I may start carrying the camera.Normally just have a small digital.

Sincerely,

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Two wrongs don't make a right . I don't know the area your are referring to however whenever dropping anchor you
should note if you are a hinderance to navigation. Both parties are responsible to ensure no accidents occur. Alot of people
are confused by this. If someone is not following a regulation then he is responsible for any damage however if you know
this regulation is being violated and you let it occur with out taking action to prevent damage or injury to yourself or others
then you are also liable. My recommendation is if a " A "hole is speeding around unsafely lift your anchor, save yourself and
notify the proper authority/coastguard to inforce the regulation.
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At times like this wouldn't it be nice if you had a second boat sitting on the landing and that second boat was an offshore racer. This way you could buzz up and down his sorry ass. Unfortunately this is the only way some folks seem to get the point.

Call the port authorities.
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I guess we have to define the term Boaters-rage now.
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Remember the "guns on board" thread last week? Just make sure no one else is around .


JUST KIDDING GUYS.
If his boat is faster than mine , all I could do is flash him the middle finger flag.
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As a teenager I remember an incident where a* speed boat was speeding in circles around*a marked water skiing area that was adjacent to a marked anchorage area. However, whenever he approached the moored boats he would swing wide to the outside the water skiing area and very close to the moored boats - I guess*he was trying to*show off to the young ladies. Well, his wake was causing damage to a group of rafted up boats, so they decided to untie from one another. While*they were*trying to seperate,*the speed boat came by very close again and one of the guys that was working the lines had it somehow wrapped around his arm and when the speed boat's wake raised the vessel and pulled*the line*taught, his arm popped off like it was a zit. I never*did*find*out if they held the speed boat operator accountable or not.
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I always keep a spinning reel handy with 20# mono and a 4 oz pyramid sinker, I am pretty accurate with it.
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Yup, there's all around. Last year I was sitting on my mooring getting our stuff ready to leave when a 38' flybridge cruiser came through about 20' away, but going about 15mph .... which causes the biggest possible wake. We got hit with a wave that came through the transom door (it was open) soaking everything on the deck and washed a cooler and backpack off the swim platform.

I really, really wanted to try out my flare gun at that point, but showed tremendous restraint. What an a-hole.

I let it go, but if it happens again, I will report him.
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The inconsiderate lunatics are everywhere. Most of the fishing is done away from shore & away from busy channels. Our biggest problem is the wake from people as they pass docks. We are required to maintain 5kts or less 100' from ANY shore however wake created 100s of yards away can do serious damage to a boat alonside a concrete dock. Boating on a small island remote is like boating in a small lake. You get to know the boats if not the idiots that drive them. Payback can be very sweet. It just takes patience. Your day comes sooner or later.
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Like was said above, "accidently" throw a rig across the bow and hope you catch something.
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Hows about a paint gun loaded with hot pink or glowing green, or some other bright color? They may not realize after they pass, but a hull with a couple of those shots should stick out for awhile back at the docks.

Let em know there is a new sheriff in town.
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I had a similar encounter with one of those speed boats. Even though we had a full description of the boat and there were three of us on board, when we personally complained to the Florida Marine Patrol, the officer said that since he did not see it happend it would only be our word against the speed demon.
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Find his dock, break out scuba gear, Lowes sells cheapie battery operated drills for $19. Get a hole saw, the drill should last just long enough in salt water to accomplish the mission. LOL
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I carry a digital camera aboard with me and have had the occasion to photograph such behavior. When I get home, I email the photos to the marine police.

It's worked on more than one occasion, and works especially well if you capture the registration number. Bracket several photos showing path of travel, proximity to other vessels, wake size, and anythine else of interest and you'll be suprised on how appreciative the marine police will be.
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I am not familar with the exact spot you decided to drop anchor. The "Rules of the Road" define what actions should be taken "to pervent collisions between "vessels". Rule 9 (g) Any vessel shall, if the circumstance of the case admit, avoid anchoring in a narrow channel. Now common sense dictates do not drop anchor in a heavily travelled channel especially if that channel has no controlled speed other than "safe speed". Maybe you were wrong for dropping anchor and the go fast guy was wrong for operating at something other than safe speed. Safe Speed Rule 6 (a) Every vessel shall at all times proceed at a safe speed so that she can take proper and effective action to avoid collision and be stopped within a distance appropriate to the prevailing circumstances and conditions. Could be you were both wrong.

As for the guy fishing in the ICW. You are not to not supposed to interfere with traffic in a channel or fairway. Yes you can fish in the ICW, and I have determine my safe speed based on traffic and other conditions. You are wrong for interfering with traffic and I am wrong if I rock your world. Two wrongs do not make a right. But you don't need to get your panties in a bunch if you get rocked; and I can expect to get violated if I cause you damage or injury.

Maybe this is a fine example why boat drivers should learn the Rules of the Road at the very least before they can operate on International and Inland waters regulated by the appropriate govenmental agency.

You can find the Rules of the Road at www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/navrules.htm
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