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I live in Maine and I'm looking for a powerboat 22' to 25'. I like both of these boats. The Rosborough has a semi displacement hull while the C-Dory has a flat hull and goes onto a plane at @ 6 kts.
In Maine we have a lot of chop so I'm wondering if anyone out there has experience with the C-Dory and can tell me what kind of ride I'll get out of that hull in Maine. Thanks for your input.
I don't personally own one of either of these but the local dealer here sells the heck out of the c-dory and there are a lot around our river and sound where it gets pretty choppy at times. He says they ride incredibly well and are extremely well built. Google "Mobile East Marine" and ask for Gene or Carrie. They are two of the most honest people you will ever meet and I'm sure they have a list of owners they can put you in touch with, maybe even some in your area as they sell the C-Dory's all over the country.
I live in Maine and I'm looking for a powerboat 22' to 25'. I like both of these boats. The Rosborough has a semi displacement hull while the C-Dory has a flat hull and goes onto a plane at @ 6 kts.
In Maine we have a lot of chop so I'm wondering if anyone out there has experience with the C-Dory and can tell me what kind of ride I'll get out of that hull in Maine. Thanks for your input.
Have you seen the boats in person? I can't tell you about the ride but I've seen them both at boat shows and the Rosborough seems like a better finished, more comfortable boat.
I have rf246 customwheelhouse 2002 diesel. This boat is built like a tank holds resale very good and the fit and finish is top notch wiring is exellent my only problem in 600hrs were lenco trim tabs.Goes thru the slop with the bow down with no pounding 3-5ft chop 10-13 knots.
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25' Rosborough Custom Wheelhouse 31adp diesel
rayram - look up inaforty who posts here and has a Ros 246. Also go on youtube and do a search of inaforty's videos. He has one of hime running thru Buzzards Bay chop at speed. I like that boat a lot.
Try asking over at c-brats.com, thats the c-dory owners forum. Very nice people and many who own both boats. A wealth of info there. Stop over at their travels section to see how far you can cruise in a 22 foot boat.
I currently own a C Dory 25 (and a Tom Cat 255). We recently came back from 2 months and 1200 miles in the Pacific North West up to North end of Vancouver Island, including some very rough water. I also looked carefully at the Rosoborough boats, which i have been following since the 50's. I have previously owned a C Dory 22--and traded "UP" because I wanted more room, especially in the foreward bunk area. The 22 is about 4500 lbs on the trailer. The 25 is about 7500 lbs on a trailer, and a Rosie 246 will be close to 10,000 lbs on the trailer--so you can draw your conclusions about tow vehicles. I purchased the CD 25 because I didn't want to tow the 10,000 lb Tom Cat 255 across the country. There is a lot of difference towing 4500 lbs, 7500 lbs and 10,000 lbs. The reason I rejected the Rosie 246 had to do with the room in the berth. It did not have enough room for me to be comfortable--I am 6' 2" and about 200 lbs. Some folks have eliminated the hanging locker to get more bunk room. I didn't like the side doors (I can reach docks thru the side windows). I liked the opening front window of the C Dory.
Yes, the C Dory has a relitatively flat semi dory hull, some V foreward and reverse chines, so it is very stable at low speeds. The Rosie has a much finer entry and round chine. The Rosie goes better directly into a chop--the C Dory goes much better down seas and chop--in fact we ran 30 miles in 4 to 5 foot seas with 35 to 40 knots of wind against current in Johnston Straits one afternoon with ease. From what I have seen and heard the Rosie would have problems with these conditions--as any deep forefoot boat might. We have also run in 3 to 5' beam seas. With proper trimming using trim tabs and a Permatrim, the C Dory will do fine into 3 foot seas. We had to buck into some 4 to 5 foot seas, at a slow speed the boat did fine. But true 5 foot short seas are rare. The C Dories also have very good re-sale value. The interiors are very utilitarian, and you can hose them out--no mouse fir there. There is one couple who has lived in a C Dory 22 (towed with a Ford 150) and done the East Coast Great Loop, Bahamas, Baja, most of the lakes and rivers of the US and several trips to Alaska in the last 5 years. There is a C Dory currently doing the "loop".
Yes the C Dory planes a low speed, but I think that 6 knots is a bit on the low side--I find that at 9 to 10 knots the boat is on a full plane, and with bow down, with tabs and Permatrim, it handles the chop well.
The power is much different. The C Dory 22 uses 75 to 115 outboards. The C Dory 25 uses 130 to 200 HP outboards and the Rosie can use from 60 to 300 hp (I believe that is the upper limit). There are also I/O options for the Rosie, including diesel. My feeling is that the C Dory 25 gets slightly better fuel economy than the Rosie--but it depends on speeds and if you plane, or displacement speeds. Overall I averaged slightly over 3 miles a gallon over the 1200 miles this year. AT full plane I would get 2.4 miles a gallon. (calibrated flow meter) and up to 4 miles a gallon at low displacement speed. The C Dory 22 gets closer to 4.5 miles a gallon over all--and some have gotten 5 miles a gallon.
I prefer the Tom Cat--it is much faster (top speed high 40's), fuel economy in the 2.2 miles a gallon on a plane at 25 knots, and has more living room, with a full queen berth--good galley dinette and head.
Look at all 4 boats (and other down east types), go to "C Brats"--which is a very active forum of C Dory and Ranger tug owners. There is also a Rosorbough 246 Yahoo forum. All are good boats. Choose which will work best for you.
I live in Maine and I'm looking for a powerboat 22' to 25'. I like both of these boats. The Rosborough has a semi displacement hull while the C-Dory has a flat hull and goes onto a plane at @ 6 kts.
In Maine we have a lot of chop so I'm wondering if anyone out there has experience with the C-Dory and can tell me what kind of ride I'll get out of that hull in Maine. Thanks for your input.
Have you seen the boats in person? I can't tell you about the ride but I've seen them both at boat shows and the Rosborough seems like a better finished, more comfortable boat.
Yeah, I concur with rwidman.
We have had numerous C-Dory dealers here in the Bay Area over the years (seems like they get picked up and then dropped fairly often by the dealers), so I have "kicked" plenty of their hulls.
Pretty much no fit and finish. Their deck (topside) non-skid is very good, but it doesn't continue on the cockpit deck. No bilge, since the inside of the hull/deck, is the bottom of the boat. No frills that's for sure. Very lightweight.
They do have a good following with their owners though. And I'm sure that they are VERY economical.
Lots of buyers compare the Arima's to the C-Dory's for a purchasing decision.
I have looked at a Rosborough that was for sale in the area. It seemed to be solidly built, and I have heard that they have an excellent ride, and excellent factory support.
If my only choice was between the two, it would be a no-brainer...
Bob, this is wonderful information and I thank you for taking the time to post is. In fact thanks to all of you who appreciate boating, for helping a fellow enthisiast. Ray
Finally, a topic I feel qualified to to comment on.
I own a RF246 with diesel I/O and boat out of Valdez, Alaska. My wife and I were originally looking at C-Dorys, and had spent time on them. One look at the Rosborough changed our minds. One ride, and we knew we were going to buy.
Great visibility, lots of room inside, comfortable setup, and very seaworthy. Goes through slop and chop with no pounding. Just trim the bow down a bit and go. No flopping around, bouncing, fuss or muss, just go. Takes a beam sea well, and I have had no problems with a following sea once I figured out how to do it.
Substantial hull and cabin with great fit and finish. No give in any deck surface, rail, or roof. It's built like the proverbial brick shithouse. Our boat is a 1994, and there are no leaks topside or below the waterline, no cracking, crazing, no fiberglass issues at all.
I love the helm door (ours has only a helm door, newer models have port and starboard sliders). It makes docking a breeze, and I really enjoy sliding the door open while cruising and watching the porpoise play the bow wave.
We cruised 1500 nm last summer, burned 378 gals of diesel, 150 hrs tach time. Numbers aren't final for this summer yet, but look to be on track with last year.
It is the perfect boat for us.
I'll be happy to answer any questions you have. PM me if you do.
Hey Barry - up awful early this morning are'nt you?
Looks like the Scotia Mist and the Katy Wren are gonna stay home this weekend whith Hanna running up the coast.
Went down to the marina yesterday afternoon and double up on the lines and slide the boat around a bit with the spring lines. We were toying with the idea of pulling her out but it looks like it's just going to be like a nasty Nor'easter.
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246 Rosborough
13' Whaler
I know nothing about the Rosborough except what I have read but I have owned to C-Dory's a 16 and a 22. I love the 22 it's the perfect size for me for singlehanding and trailering. I'd pay close attention to Bob Austin's previous comments he has more boating experience than anyone I know especially with C-Dory's. My 22 handles seas very well you just slow down and trim the bow down. The Rosboroughs look like fine vessels also I expect which ever you decide you'll be happy with. As someone else said there's a wealth of information on the C-Brat site about C-Dory's plus some on Rosborough's. If creature comforts are a consideration you might look at the Ranger tugs the 25 is a really nice vessel and with the new Cummins diesels they are a little faster than previous models.
. If creature comforts are a consideration you might look at the Ranger tugs the 25 is a really nice vessel and with the new Cummins diesels they are a little faster than previous models.
Mobile East Marine mentioned above is a new Ranger Tug dealer as well. Those things are NICE!! Incredibly nice!!
c- dory vs rosborough
