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This is my first post and don't know a whole lot about boats. We currently own a 2000 Cobia 224. We are getting ready to move up in size.
I have narrowed down my list to two boats. They are different but would like comments just the same. One is a 2005 Regulator 32 FS with Yahama twin 250 4strokes with 400 hours. The regulator is in the 100K range. The other is a 2004 Pursuit CC 3070 with 210 hours on Yamaha twin 225 4 strokes. The pursuit is ins the 90K range. Both are in excellent condition.
Would it be worth the extra 10K to buy the Regulator (with higher engine hours) or is the Pursuit with less engine hours a better deal? Thanks in advance.
Thank you for the response. I have never been in either of the two boats so I don't know which one is the better of the two. I know the Regulator is more expensive brand new than the Pursuit.
I have read on this website that people would rather have the 250s over the 225s. I guess I am trying to find out about the difference in the ride, fit and finish, and dryness between the two boats.
I've never been on a Regulator, but I own a 2006 Pursuit 3070 Offshore. It's my second Pursuit (previously owned a 2570 OS). The boat is excellent in rough water (especially a head-on sea); nearly everyone who sets foot on my boat comments on how well it handles the water. And the fit/finish is second to none (my opinion).
Hard for me to compare for you having not been on a Regulator, but I don't think you'll go wrong with the Pursuit.
Surprised you have not received more comments. Both builders are well respected with quality products. A sea trial during similar conditions will help, while they are not quit on par as the 3070 is a 21 deg dead rise and the Reg is 24 deg. This will impact performance and ride numbers. The Reg does need as much hp as possible, the 225's will be a neg at resale. My pick was with Pursuit, probably the best customer service in the production boat industry. Good luck with your hunt.......
Both boats sound a bit underpowered. I had a 2870 Pursuit CC with F225's on it. I wouldn't want anything less than that on the 28' and would have preferred F250's. I think the 30' with F225's may be lacking.
I've never been on the 32' Regulator, but had looked at some 26's with F225's. I think a 32' with F250's may be a bit week. Probably want the F350's on it.
Both boats sound a bit underpowered. I had a 2870 Pursuit CC with F225's on it. I wouldn't want anything less than that on the 28' and would have preferred F250's. I think the 30' with F225's may be lacking.
I've never been on the 32' Regulator, but had looked at some 26's with F225's. I think a 32' with F250's may be a bit week. Probably want the F350's on it.
Ellies, just curious: what were your performance stats with the F225's in the 28 CC and what did you consider 'borderline'?
I think this discussion depends on what one considers preferable/appropriate. I have twin F250's on my 3070 Offshore (just to be clear: express style with cabin (i.e. heavier)). During 'normal' conditions, the boat cruises at approx 30mph @ ~4000-4200 RPM...tops out in the low-mid 40's...and has no problem planing with a full load. I bet the numbers would be in that ballpark with 225's in the lighter Center Console - but I'm sure Pursuit would be willing to share exact performance info for the specific boat if a call were placed to them.
(Note: I'm assuming we are talking about a full 30 ft CC here, and not the 3070 CC Offshore which is an express style but with the helm in the center)
I have the 3070 express with twin F225s and my performance is the same as the numbers on pursuits web site for the 3070. cruise 26mph at 4000rpm 1.5mpg and top speed is 42mph light with a tail wind. good all around well made boat. I havent been on the regulator but it is higher deadrise boat and will likely be a better headsea ride but more tender on a drift and worse fuel economy. I wouyld prefer the F250s but the 225s get the job done.
Ellies, just curious: what were your performance stats with the F225's in the 28 CC and what did you consider 'borderline'?
I think this discussion depends on what one considers preferable/appropriate. I have twin F250's on my 3070 Offshore (just to be clear: express style with cabin (i.e. heavier)). During 'normal' conditions, the boat cruises at approx 30mph @ ~4000-4200 RPM...tops out in the low-mid 40's...and has no problem planing with a full load. I bet the numbers would be in that ballpark with 225's in the lighter Center Console - but I'm sure Pursuit would be willing to share exact performance info for the specific boat if a call were placed to them.
(Note: I'm assuming we are talking about a full 30 ft CC here, and not the 3070 CC Offshore which is an express style but with the helm in the center)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the performance was bad. Just saying that I wouldn't want anything less. In fact, I really liked the boat. If I could get back to FL, the Pursuit 2870 would be on the top of my list. I'd probably look for something with older power to repower to F250's, though.
I guess my biggest gripe was that I'd have preferred to cruise in the mid 40's on those nice summer days when the Gulf was flat and you're running 40-50 miles back to port from the grouper grounds.
Loaded out with fuel, ice, gear and a 4 man crew, I wasn't hitting 50 at WOT. So, I was just sucking gas running the engines hard at mid 40 mph's. Obviously, we can assume that the 3070CC is going to be a bit less across the board.
Here's the performance bulletin for the new 28 with the F250's. http://www.pursuitboats.com/performa...winF250-09.pdf Looks like 50+ is no problem with a full load and you should be able to cruise at mid 40's getting better than 1.5 mpg.
Both boats sound a bit underpowered. I had a 2870 Pursuit CC with F225's on it. I wouldn't want anything less than that on the 28' and would have preferred F250's. I think the 30' with F225's may be lacking.
I've never been on the 32' Regulator, but had looked at some 26's with F225's. I think a 32' with F250's may be a bit week. Probably want the F350's on it.
I was concerned that the Pursuit was a little underpowered. I was unsure about the Regulator though.
I am not going to be doing much fishing in the boat. I am interested in something I can take my family out in. That's why I am looking at the FS model and the Pursuit. Basically I am going to be using the boat as a water taxi. I would regularly be putting 10 people in the boat and heading to Crab Island--in Destin, FL. Do you think that both of these boats, as rigged, would struggle to accomplish this task? Thanks for all the replies.
Both boats sound a bit underpowered. I had a 2870 Pursuit CC with F225's on it. I wouldn't want anything less than that on the 28' and would have preferred F250's. I think the 30' with F225's may be lacking.
I've never been on the 32' Regulator, but had looked at some 26's with F225's. I think a 32' with F250's may be a bit week. Probably want the F350's on it.
I was concerned that the Pursuit was a little underpowered. I was unsure about the Regulator though.
I am not going to be doing much fishing in the boat. I am interested in something I can take my family out in. That's why I am looking at the FS model and the Pursuit. Basically I am going to be using the boat as a water taxi. I would regularly be putting 10 people in the boat and heading to Crab Island--in Destin, FL. Do you think that both of these boats, as rigged, would struggle to accomplish this task? Thanks for all the replies.
You might want to explore more options...... the reg is really many to fish pretty seriously. It will do what you ask but would be overkill.....
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The Regulator's 24 degree deadrise is both a good thing and a bad thing. It is good in that it gives a very good ride, but it is bad in that it takes a lot of power (and fuel) to give that ride. Regulators are well built and heavy, but they are not the most economical boat to run because of it.
The Pursuit has 3 degrees less deadrise, so it will be a bit more stable on drift and use less fuel to keep the boat on plane. Three years ago, I'd have said it needs more power, but I find that as fuel hovers about $4 per gallon, I really am happy with my Yamaha 225's on a bigger boat than either of the two you are looking at.
In your case, only a sea trial, done in rough water, will let you make the correct decision for your needs. Both choices are good boats..
Both boats sound a bit underpowered. I had a 2870 Pursuit CC with F225's on it. I wouldn't want anything less than that on the 28' and would have preferred F250's. I think the 30' with F225's may be lacking.
I've never been on the 32' Regulator, but had looked at some 26's with F225's. I think a 32' with F250's may be a bit week. Probably want the F350's on it.
I was concerned that the Pursuit was a little underpowered. I was unsure about the Regulator though.
I am not going to be doing much fishing in the boat. I am interested in something I can take my family out in. That's why I am looking at the FS model and the Pursuit. Basically I am going to be using the boat as a water taxi. I would regularly be putting 10 people in the boat and heading to Crab Island--in Destin, FL. Do you think that both of these boats, as rigged, would struggle to accomplish this task? Thanks for all the replies.
You might want to explore more options...... the reg is really many to fish pretty seriously. It will do what you ask but would be overkill.....
The only other boat I have really considered is a 32 Century CC. The ones I have looked at have Yamaha 250 4 strokes. I have not ridden in one of those either. Seem to be a well built boat.
Really just like the looks of the Regulator. Don't want to have it underpowered though.
Have you looked at the Pursuit 3000 express? it's an inboard but perfect for what you're looking to do. I wouldn't recommend beaching it but you can anchor in 3 feet of water no problem. It's a little slower than the 3070 but the ride is unbeleivable and people enjoy riding on it. It also provides a great cabin to get out of the weather.
Have you looked at the Pursuit 3000 express? it's an inboard but perfect for what you're looking to do. I wouldn't recommend beaching it but you can anchor in 3 feet of water no problem. It's a little slower than the 3070 but the ride is unbeleivable and people enjoy riding on it. It also provides a great cabin to get out of the weather.
I have considered an express. We typically have a dog or two on the boat. I would prefer the CC over the express simply for the clean up factor. Otherwise I would seriously consider getting an express.
Just because I don't fish doesn't mean I can't have a nice boat. I would like to have the option to go fishing and I don't think these boats would afford me that opportunity.
32 Regulator FS vs Pursuit 3070 
