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Old 08-22-2008, 08:27 AM
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Hello

I am new to this forum and there is a lot of good information.

I am looking at purchasing a used boat with a 2005 Evinrude 200 HP DI salt water that has never been used in salt water.

If I am correct this is an improved version of the OMC Fitch that BRP has improved. Does anybody have any opinions, feedback or history with this engine?

THe model #Model # E200FPXSOE
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My problem is the boat is 500-600 miles from here.

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Great engine!
Ditto. Have twin 2002 225s. Misers on fuel and oil. Lots of torque. Having said that, you should have it checked out by a qualified technician like any other used motor you might consider.
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What should I ask to get checked, what should I look out for?

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You want the tech to plug the laptop with diagnostic software into the EMM and get a readout of any stored fault codes, the number of hours on the engine and the engine running profile (number of hours spent at different RPMs). You should also have them do a compression check, and check the gearcase for water, make sure the propshaft is straight, etc. Just basic stuff. They can also tap into BRP's warranty database to see if any warranty work was done on it.

And if you end up buying it, make sure you run the correct oil which is XD-50. While you can use cheap oil, don't. Use the XD-50 which is made for the motor.
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I have a 2004 175 and it has been a great motor, while not a e-tec it starts immediately and does not smoke, it runs smooth and powerful but mine doesnt get great mileage, around 2.3 mpg pushing a 21 ft striper w/a.
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You want the tech to plug the laptop with diagnostic software into the EMM and get a readout of any stored fault codes, the number of hours on the engine and the engine running profile (number of hours spent at different RPMs). You should also have them do a compression check, and check the gearcase for water, make sure the propshaft is straight, etc. Just basic stuff. They can also tap into BRP's warranty database to see if any warranty work was done on it.

And if you end up buying it, make sure you run the correct oil which is XD-50. While you can use cheap oil, don't. Use the XD-50 which is made for the motor.

I really can't agree with that. I ran the xd 50 exclusively and did 123 hours on the plugs without a regap (qc10wep plugs) Switched to Penzoil Plus, same plugs and I am at 96 hours no regap or noticeable difference. Yes I do burn a little richer, more soot at the exhaust, but in terms of consumption and performance, I see no difference. My mechanic is a 30 yr Evinrude guy who is a factory trainer, and even agrees.
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I agree with Whaler 27!
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if its close to me ill check it out for ya
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You want the tech to plug the laptop with diagnostic software into the EMM and get a readout of any stored fault codes, the number of hours on the engine and the engine running profile (number of hours spent at different RPMs). You should also have them do a compression check, and check the gearcase for water, make sure the propshaft is straight, etc. Just basic stuff. They can also tap into BRP's warranty database to see if any warranty work was done on it.

And if you end up buying it, make sure you run the correct oil which is XD-50. While you can use cheap oil, don't. Use the XD-50 which is made for the motor.

I really can't agree with that. I ran the xd 50 exclusively and did 123 hours on the plugs without a regap (qc10wep plugs) Switched to Penzoil Plus, same plugs and I am at 96 hours no regap or noticeable difference. Yes I do burn a little richer, more soot at the exhaust, but in terms of consumption and performance, I see no difference. My mechanic is a 30 yr Evinrude guy who is a factory trainer, and even agrees.
Do you mean you are using Pennzoil Premium Plus synthetic blend? If so, as a synthetic blend I would agree that it might be an acceptable substitute. A conventional TCW3 oil is really what I consider to be a cheap oil.

Consumption/performance aren't effected by the oil. It's the level of soot produced. Less soot is better than more soot. I run XD-50 and see no soot in the prop hub. When I got my motors, the owner before me used cheap conventional TCW3 oil and there was lot's of soot in the prop hubs. I got rid of that quick by switching to the purple Ficht Ram Oil which then turned into the blueish XD-50.
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Use xd-50 in a evinrude di motor. The oil is formulated for the motor and keeps carbon deposits down, which is critical for engine longevety. If you buy it in bulk its not that much more.
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EXACTLY! I am not getting the hub debris as you, perhaps it because I do so little idle and or no wake. Are you using those plugs, worth every nickel. I however, think I am on the Penzoil for good.
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Sorry, not sure if it relevant, but I have 250's 2002.
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EXACTLY! I am not getting the hub debris as you, perhaps it because I do so little idle and or no wake. Are you using those plugs, worth every nickel. I however, think I am on the Penzoil for good.
Still using the 12PEP plugs. If you are getting good experience with the 10WEPs then I may switch over on the next set.

Regarding Pennzoil Premium Plus, here its more expensive for me than the XD-50 bought in bulk from the local shop.
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Change over, they are great. If they were even close in price I'd use XD50. I burn a lot of oil, period. The DI"s I have are thirsty for oil, not fuel.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'm going to give the 10s a try.

FYI. I'm seeing about 60:1 on oil consumption. I usually run at 3900 to 4000 at cruise where the motors seem relaxed. My running profile shows about 40 percent below 1000 RPM and 40 percent at 4000 RPM although that is skewing higher now towards 4000 now that I don't have as long of a no wakespeed run. The rest is scattered between 1 and 4k and a little above 4k. I'm guessing that my oil consumption rate will probably go up a bit with the running profile change but so far (little over a year) it doesn't seem noticible.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'm going to give the 10s a try.

FYI. I'm seeing about 60:1 on oil consumption. I usually run at 3900 to 4000 at cruise where the motors seem relaxed. My running profile shows about 40 percent below 1000 RPM and 40 percent at 4000 RPM although that is skewing higher now towards 4000 now that I don't have as long of a no wakespeed run. The rest is scattered between 1 and 4k and a little above 4k. I'm guessing that my oil consumption rate will probably go up a bit with the running profile change but so far (little over a year) it doesn't seem noticible.
My profile is the same little or none at 5k. Below 2k 5 % 90% in the 4k area. You'll like the new plugs. My oil is about that as well. I just read the ETEC threads and they all seem to sip the stuff. It is really adding up to the costs. I burn 19 GPH at 4100, cruising at 33 or so MPH medium load. Very efficient.

FWIW mine have been very good motors.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'm going to give the 10s a try.

FYI. I'm seeing about 60:1 on oil consumption. I usually run at 3900 to 4000 at cruise where the motors seem relaxed. My running profile shows about 40 percent below 1000 RPM and 40 percent at 4000 RPM although that is skewing higher now towards 4000 now that I don't have as long of a no wakespeed run. The rest is scattered between 1 and 4k and a little above 4k. I'm guessing that my oil consumption rate will probably go up a bit with the running profile change but so far (little over a year) it doesn't seem noticible.
My profile is the same little or none at 5k. Below 2k 5 % 90% in the 4k area. You'll like the new plugs. My oil is about that as well. I just read the ETEC threads and they all seem to sip the stuff. It is really adding up to the costs. I burn 19 GPH at 4100, cruising at 33 or so MPH medium load. Very efficient.

FWIW mine have been very good motors.
Yours are doing a little better than mine. I see about 20-21 GPH at 4000 RPM turning 17 inch Rev 4s and about 29 MPH +/- 1 depending on wind/tide.
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read this link for the truth about the e-tecs

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...ral/ETEC1.aspx

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read this link for the truth about the e-tecs

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