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Not surprising at all. I've spent quite a few hours aboard a 25' SeaVee with a single DF250, the engine is everything they advertise. Fast, powerful, quiet, and efficient. IMO its the best engine out there at the moment, only thing that remains to be seen is longevity and scheduled maintenance costs. If the engine cowling said "Yamaha" instead of "Suzuki" people would be buying them up like no tomorrow for twice the price.
I've got a pair of the 250s on my new boat but have almost no hours on them. I did sea trial the boat with both Honda 225s and Suzuki 250s...the Suzukis felt much more than 50 Hp stronger. They've got awesome grunt and holeshot, plus great top end.
Before I did the deal, I called around to make sure I could find a a local Suzuki dealer. I asked for the price for the service and they said about $200-250 per motor for the 20 hour, 200 hour, 400, 600, etc. They recommended changing the impeller at the 100 hour, 300, 500, etc so it goes to about $300-350 per motor. Those prices assume they have to adjust the valves. If there are no adjustments required (just a clearance check), the price goes down to about $100-150/$200-250 per motor for the even/odd hundred hour services. FWIW, the selling dealer quoted me basically the same prices, but no break if the valves clearanced out okay (they have a service menu I guess).
Is that the 34' SeaVee? I'm curious how a pair of the DF250s would stack up on a 28' Whitewater. I'm a little concerned with aft loading, given there is a 30 gallon transom livewell, 50 gallon deck livewell, and 100 gallons of fuel all in the aft section.
I don't believe that the twin 225 Rudes were only 2 knots faster than the twin 140 Suzukis and 12 knots slower than the twin 225 Suzukis. Something is wrong here, was the boat overproped, underproped, loaded with bottom growth, when the rudes were surveyed. I see he is a Suzuki dealer! Figures! Not saying the rudes were slower than the new 225 Suzukis but 12 knots come on!
Kevin M, he bought that boat as a project and I suspect those rudes were screwed up and bottom dirty. He should not of printed anything about them to be fair. I also think he had a 20kt tail wind and a 3kt down current to make 34 with the 140's. Bottom line the 225's 4 stroke did a nice job on performace. There is another tread on local board and another capt chimed in that was witness to the 225 suzuki test and seen the gps/FF numbers with his own eyes as he put it.
Obviously the susy's are great engines. When are they going to build and maintain a service network for their customers. They sure as heck don't have any now!
Harry what boat did you put them on & have you been out yet? How did you come to pick the Suz over the other motors out? A few of my friends have the older suz & love them, they also seem to have no troubles.
The motors were already rigged on the boat, but I probably would have chosen them over any other motor based on the reputation. I've been out once on teh sea trial with no GPS, so I could not give you any hard numbers. Once I get all the electronics instaled, I'll take her down to the ocean and get some good numbers. I have a Navman with a dual engine kit, so good numbers should be pretty easy to get.
Ok Harry I like the Suzukis but service may be hard to get what do you think are they going to have parts & service in all areas, or will it be tough to get in most areas? I also saw that you got a cat.
There are 2 Suzuki dealers within 25 miles of where I will keep the boat initially. I also think there's a lot of misinformation about parts availability based on old information. Suzuki added 600 dealers this year and plans to add another 1000 next year.
One thing is for sure there are way more suzuki dealers then honda dealers. Just about as many suzuki dealers as OMC. OMC lost a lot of dealers when OMC went belly up a couple years ago.
Just did a dealer search for suzuki found many nearby, that was nice to see. Just wonder if they will be topnotch in their service. A while back a Captain was claiming that the 200 ,225,250 new four stroke suzukis were having trouble, at least thats what the dealer in his area told him. Did you see that if so fact or fiction? It seems to me these motors have had great reports from all that have used or tested them other than that one report. I will try to find it.
Harry: I also have a set of 21.5 x 16's on my 27 Contender. Plus I have a set of 20 x 16's for when I go to the Bahamas overloaded with stuff.
horseradish & captainkevin: Harry & I don't have to worry about service & a dealer network as the new Suzuki four strokes don't need service other than an occasional gearcase & engine oil change. I just sold a boat with a 2 yr old Suzuki 140 four stroke and in the 26 months I owned the boat/engine, Suzuki never had a service bulletin out on the 140 - that's got to be some kind of record. As far as parts are concerned, as of 2 years ago Suzuki had one parts depot, located in southern Calirofnia. They now have three - the original one in California, one in Minnesota and one in Atlanta (& no, I have no connection with Suzuki other than currently owning 2-250's).