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Old 07-01-2008, 04:12 AM
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Default Offshore capable bay boat , 22-24'??

Looking for suggestions and feedback on offshore capable bay boats in the 22-24' range. I'm looking for something for the backwaters and ICW but capable of running offshore when the weather permits. I favor the larger cockpits at the expense of deck space, would love a walk in console, new or used, 4 strokes only, not interested in a flat bottom skiff, and I think I want a TTop though I don't see many on the bay boats.

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"offshore capable bay boats"

Never mind.... Sick of explaining to people bay boats are not designed for offshore. No matter who makes them or how many strokes their engines have .

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"offshore capable bay boats"

Never mind.... Sick of explaining to people bay boats are not designed for offshore. No matter who makes them or how many strokes their engines have .

I agree with your opinion. I don't think there is a viable compromise. And the one place you don't want to compromise is on a boat that you intend to use offshore.


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I'll acknowledge they are not "designed" for offshore, but I've seen a flat bottom skiff out 30 miles, not that I'd do that. There are some days, I'll acknowledge they are rare, that you can run 10 miles offshore in a bay boat. No one is more safety conscious than I am.

I've also watched a 30'+ Fountain sink 20 miles offshore as well.

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There are plenty of boats that can do both. A lot of guys here in texas fish both the bays and the GOM in the same boat. kenner 23,triton 22 sea flight, parker 23 big bay,everglades 23,carolina skiff 258. Pick your days and carry the proper safety equipment and you will be fine.
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Depends on what type of offshore fishing you're speaking of but the Everglades 243 is a capable boat for inshore fishing with offshore capabilities. Good luck with your search.
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One word for you, Freeboard. Bay boats don't have it. My 18 seahunt has more freeboard than my neighbors 2201 Mako.
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SeaPA - 7/1/2008 7:30 AM I'll acknowledge they are not "designed" for offshore, but I've seen a flat bottom skiff out 30 miles, not that I'd do that. There are some days, I'll acknowledge they are rare, that you can run 10 miles offshore in a bay boat. No one is more safety conscious than I am. I've also watched a 30'+ Fountain sink 20 miles offshore as well.
I've been to the Varanger (sunk 28 miles off NJ in WW2) in a 17 Montauk and made it back, a couple times, and with a 2 stroke!!!!!!.... So what.
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You guys wll love this one. 3 weeks ago we are fishing the J bouy 20 miles out. I look Norht and see A 20FT. PONTOON BOAT! No kidding. There were also 6 bayboats and 2 carolina DLV's out there as well. Largest small boat fleet I have ever seen at one time offshore so far. By the way, It turned into 3ft. and steep on the way home that afternoon.
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We used to take my 24 champion 50 miles offshore before we had the big boat. Boat is a machine and never had any problems in less than favorable seas....best riding bayboat and best layout of any bayboat IMHO. Just make sure you keep her maintained
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SeaPA - 7/1/2008 7:30 AM I'll acknowledge they are not "designed" for offshore, but I've seen a flat bottom skiff out 30 miles, not that I'd do that. There are some days, I'll acknowledge they are rare, that you can run 10 miles offshore in a bay boat. No one is more safety conscious than I am. I've also watched a 30'+ Fountain sink 20 miles offshore as well.


Try looking at a 23' Pacific/Black Lab .you can run in 2 feet of water and run safely outside .and none has ever sunk to my knowledge . They come in all sort of configurations T-Top ,Hard Top,Pilot House, Super Top with head etc..
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One more vote for the 243 everglades. I do no know its draft and have never ridden on one but it appears to have higher sides than most bayboats. It looks like a good compromise boat.
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I have had my 22ft Pathfinder out 20 miles from Palm Beach inlet on light wind days. I also have a tee top. This boat fishes 4 without any problem. With a jackplate and trim tabs you can ride big swells without any problems. 15kts or more you keep inshore. In the keys I have gone to the hump and back in, and then off to 9 mile bank in the same day. Every year a group of Pathfinder owners leave Palm beach inlet and cross the stream to West end. Not for me but on the right day it can be done.
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Another vote for the 243 Everglades............I own one and bought it because it is more of a "compromise" or " crosssover". I installed a second bilge pump and think that you should do that if you plan to go offshore.....
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:25 AM
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I like the HydraSports 2300 BayBolt. Big heavy sucker that I hear rides pretty good. For less money the Key West 21' Bay Reef is nice as well. Not sure were you are located, but in the Central GOM very easy for Bay Boats to fish near shore waters.

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"offshore capable bay boats"

Never mind.... Sick of explaining to people bay boats are not designed for offshore. No matter who makes them or how many strokes their engines have .

Apparently those that actually "design" such things are in disagreement! From the Nautic Star website:

.At NauticStar, we call the 2400 NauticBay the "Blue Water Bay" because it is the right choice for the angler who hunts his catch in the shallow bays and then heads for the rigs in search of the bigger off shore trophys. Shallow draft hull with a high riding deep-V-forward will keep you dry and safe in the bigger waters
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Default Re: Offshore capable bay boat , 22-24'??

the Pioneer 220 baysport is more of a hybrid design bayboat, great flare, unsinkable. I know folks that go out often and love it. the console is failrly small though and not walk-in nor does it accomodate a potty.

"For all who demand more from a bay boat, the Pioneer 220 Bay Sport is the ultimate angler's dream! If your adventures require entering the inland lake, rivers, and bays or the tougher waters off shore, this unsinkable hybrid design gets the job done! The 220 Bay Sport combines the versatiltiy of a bay boat's shallow to medium draft and spacious fishing platform with the comforts and ride of a Sport Fish. You decide where to go! Let the 220 Bay Sport take you there!"


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243 Everglades by far the best choice, imo. A few of the the shallow draft "offshore boats" would include the Parker 23 SE and the Helms 21. Compromises, you still have to be a little picky about sea conditions before heading too far out.
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Action craft 23. I think they call it a coastal bay. Nice high sides for a bay boat.
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I like the HydraSports 2300 BayBolt. Big heavy sucker that I hear rides pretty good. For less money the Key West 21' Bay Reef is nice as well. Not sure were you are located, but in the Central GOM very easy for Bay Boats to fish near shore waters.

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No problem on decent days, near shore in the Baybolt. Heavy at 3435# hull only and higher than most freeboard. We got caught out of Grand Isle in a summer squall, 40+ mph wind and though it wasn't fun, the Baybolt hung in there. I have mine in the shop now repowering with a DF300 and was looking at the Key West 24 bay boat that they have. Nice looking boat and was told by the dealer 19 degree deadrise. Priced at 39,000 with a DF250

Gary, Are you going to Grand Isle this weekend?
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