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Too bad you weren't on the outside dock at Downtown Marina, you would have deserved the scratches and rocking.
I can't believe all these posters trying to validate waking guys at a dock just so you can justify being an inconsiderate jackass and feel good about it.
eggsuckindog - 6/15/2008 11:44 PM Its a NO WAKE ZONE FOR A REASON DUMBAZZ - he was trying to educate you to the fact the YOU just probably caused thousand's of $ damage to either his or all the boats in the marina. Not to mention safety issues of people boarding or exiting vessals when the weren't expecting to be hit with a 4 ft wake- I'm sure you slowed down to 2K RPM and got the nose high so it would throw the largest wake possible. I dearly wish you and ever other poster on this thread would sell your boats immediately because your all TOO STUPID to understand what a NO WAKE ZONE IS. You might lucky you didn't stop because he may have kicked your azz, and deservidly so - what do you think the difference of a wake from 50 yds or 100 - NOT FRICKEN MUCH
Perhaps you like no wake zones, but a lot of us don't. All the man was asking for is a definition of the law. If its legal for him to go fast, and he wants to go fast, good for him. If the marina can't handle the waves, they can build a breakwater or petition for the no wake zone area to be extended. Although from reading you post, I'd guess there is a fair chance you are the jackass that runs around in his boat minding everyone elses business.
Perhaps you like no wake zones, but a lot of us don't. All the man was asking for is a definition of the law. If its legal for him to go fast, and he wants to go fast, good for him. If the marina can't handle the waves, they can build a breakwater or petition for the no wake zone area to be extended. Although from reading you post, I'd guess there is a fair chance you are the jackass that runs around in his boat minding everyone elses business.
why is everyone always worried about what they can get by with legaly instead of what they can do to be a better more courtious boater. the boating crowd around here might as well sell there boats and buy them a jet ski.
Some of the people in this thread don't understand just how wide a 300 yard river is...
There is almost no wake at all after it has traveled 100 yards. There is no way in hell I'd slow down if I was that far away from them. If you think that's inconsiderate, try fishing just outside of the channel down here in Florida. No one will slow down for you at all and I don't think they should. If you're dumb enough to fish outside of the channel you take your chances.
Some of the people in this thread don't understand just how wide a 300 yard river is...
There is almost no wake at all after it has traveled 100 yards. There is no way in hell I'd slow down if I was that far away from them. If you think that's inconsiderate, try fishing just outside of the channel down here in Florida. No one will slow down for you at all and I don't think they should. If you're dumb enough to fish outside of the channel you take your chances.
What? A wave disipates in just 300 feet? We used to sit on our 1968 38 foot Wheeler (heavy as hell wood boat) at North Hudson Yacht Club in Edgewater New Jersey. Unfortunately, our slip was not protected by the seawall. Let me tell you, we would see tug boats in the middle of the Hudson River and about 2 - 3 minutes later the wake would arrive. If what you say is true those waves should have disipated to 0. Our boat would get rocked furiously from the wake of the tugs anywhere between 1/4 to 1/2 mile away. We learned to keep all items stowed and leave NOTHING on counters, tables, etc. Damage the first couple of times was limited to stains on the rug. We really learned how to tie up a boat real tight in an area where the tides averaged 4-5 feet and moon tides were 6 feet.
No reason to fly through a no-wake zone at all. You are talking about a couple of hundred yards. Slow down for a couple of feet. What is the big deal?
................................... No reason to fly through a no-wake zone at all. You are talking about a couple of hundred yards. Slow down for a couple of feet. What is the big deal?
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It has been established that the portion of the river outside the no-wake buoys is not a no-wake zone. And with my boat I can't "fly through" anything.
I understand the wakes and I stay as far from the marina as safely possible. I usually go pretty slow in the area.
I doubt you would have much luck demanding that those tug boats slow down.
I doubt you would have much luck demanding that those tug boats slow down.
You are correct. Besides it's not the speed that is the problem, its the fact that they are "working" and pulling barges and stuff. Most of the time the tugs are working. There is nothing they can do to regulate there wake.
My friend used to have a small tug for his construction company (Shellhorn Constuction).Have you ever seen a tug out of water? There is more boat below the water line than there is above it. That's why they throw such large wakes working or not.
Hence, we leaned how to secure the boat at the slip to prevent any damage.
Its really a part of everyone to do there part to make boating more enjoyable. I live on a creek which is great for sking and stuff but it gets tougher and tougher with every new house. I realise people want to ski and stuff so i have my boat tied up so another boats wake will not cause any damage but I also expect others to use common sense and not throw out too big of a wake or while we are docking, loading etc... We also have people who just tie there boats up to the dock without anything to hold them off the peirs so we have to slow down so we do not cause any damage. If they could give me some slack and tie their boats up better so we can use the creek to have a littl fun. If I'm going by any unprotected marina I will slow down because I feel thats the right thing to do but don't act as if you own the river and boss everyone around.
eggsuckindog - 6/15/2008 11:44 PM Its a NO WAKE ZONE FOR A REASON DUMBAZZ - he was trying to educate you to the fact the YOU just probably caused thousand's of $ damage to either his or all the boats in the marina. Not to mention safety issues of people boarding or exiting vessals when the weren't expecting to be hit with a 4 ft wake- I'm sure you slowed down to 2K RPM and got the nose high so it would throw the largest wake possible. I dearly wish you and ever other poster on this thread would sell your boats immediately because your all TOO STUPID to understand what a NO WAKE ZONE IS. You might lucky you didn't stop because he may have kicked your azz, and deservidly so - what do you think the difference of a wake from 50 yds or 100 - NOT FRICKEN MUCH
Perhaps you like no wake zones, but a lot of us don't.* All the man was asking for is a definition of the law.* If its legal for him to go fast, and he wants to go fast, good for him.* If the marina can't handle the waves, they can build a breakwater or petition for the no wake zone area to be extended.* Although from reading you post, I'd guess there is a fair chance you are the jackass that runs around in his boat minding everyone elses business.
Most no wake zone laws in the northeast that I'm aware of are enforced by Police, Department of Environmental Protection, CG, or some other law enforcement entity, and the fines for violators are anything but insignificant.
Where the laws are strictly enforced you simply don't see frequent violations, and certainly very few repeat violations.
And yes, I strongly support no wake zones around marinas and loading/docking areas.
pncmatias - 6/16/2008 12:30 PM Whether you are in a No Wake zone or not you are ALWAYS responsible for your wake. Basic rules of the road.
Go down to Ft Lauderdale and tie your boat up to a dock in an area on the ICW that is not an officially marked slow speed zone one weekend in the summer and see if you get waked or not.
There is still somewhere in Ft. Lauderdale where someone other than the WaterTaxi and the Police can go fast?!
Creeps like the marina mentioned here and the rich assess on the Intercoastal have ruined small boating in Ft. Lauderdale.
pncmatias - 6/16/2008 12:30 PM Whether you are in a No Wake zone or not you are ALWAYS responsible for your wake. Basic rules of the road.
Go down to Ft Lauderdale and tie your boat up to a dock in an area on the ICW that is not an officially marked slow speed zone one weekend in the summer and see if you get waked or not.
There is still somewhere in Ft. Lauderdale where someone other than the WaterTaxi and the Police can go fast?!
Creeps like the marina mentioned here and the rich assess on the Intercoastal have ruined small boating in Ft. Lauderdale.
The full time slow speed used to be weekends during the winter season. They may have expanded it to full time since I left in 1998.
I leave my boat tied up to my dock and I live on a river. Boats fly by all the time and I constantly get wakes from 10-35ft boats. Thats life on the river. I laugh when other docks put up fake no wake signs. They might as well put up signs that say "Help me, I dont know how to properly tie up my boat." I use tayor made lifetime warranty buoys and leave enough slack in the lines for the rockin. Most of the time the boat hardly touches the dock. People that want to go through the trouble to chase and scold have personal issues and if it wasnt you they would be fired up about something else. I find it real hard to get pissed off on the water, thats why I am there, to chill out. Now, that said, I always slow to minimum wake for boat ramps, rowers or fishermen. Courtesy.
I'm sorry yall don't get the point, but there is only so far you can push the legality of something outside of courtesy before you will get a sharp pop in the nose. Legaly the poper will be in the wrong and the popie will be right but you still go home with an a$$ whippin.
If you could see this streach of water you would know why he is upset. If he hugged the far side of the river there should be NO ISSUE with a wake, unless you are a major A$$ hole. In this case I dont think he is splitting hairs about "legally right" and "boater morality right" Its a big expanse of water.
If you could see this streach of water you would know why he is upset. If he hugged the far side of the river there should be NO ISSUE with a wake, unless you are a major A$$ hole. In this case I dont think he is splitting hairs about "legally right" and "boater morality right" Its a big expanse of water.
Thank you.
Here is a photo:
If you can make out the small white dots, these are the official SCDNR no-wake buoys.
Clearly there is enough open water to run outside the no wake bouys. The guy who chased you down was a jerk who had nothing better to do. My guess is he will chase down the wrong boat one day and meet his match.
As for Topofthefoodchain, "I'm sorry yall don't get the point, but there is only so far you can push the legality of something outside of courtesy before you will get a sharp pop in the nose. Legaly the poper will be in the wrong and the popie will be right but you still go home with an a$$ whippin."
There would be no "a$$ whippin", there would be the whippin out of my Glock, if you were looking to make trouble. I would think only a fool would risk jail over a little wake.
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