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I like what I have seen and read so far. This is what I'm looking at:
*2004 model 2120 sport cabin
*Yamaha F150 four stroke
*pacific galvanized trailer
*west coast style high stainless bow rail
Total price here in southern Ca. is $38,000-$40,000.
Any opinions on the package for the price?
power suggestions?
The other boat I like is the 20' Maritime Pioneer, but I would have to buy back east and ship to the west. From what I have gathered those run about $32,000 rigged with a Yamaha F115? Sound about right?
Thanks for your opinions and input in advance.
Dan on Ahi Nui
Parker boats are heavy. If that is a DV, then you need more power. I would want more HP and an HPDI instead of the 4S. For use it in saltwater get an aluminum trailer instead of galvinized. Maintain it and it'll last longer than you or me. IMO, the price is on the high side for what you describing.
Thanks, I plan on sea trialing the boat w/ a F150 this weekend. I'll take plenty of people to account for the fuel, bait tank, tackle and half tower weight. Please keep the comments coming.
Dan on Ahi Nui
The Parker you are looking at weighs 3250 pounds, bare hull, 21 degree. If you want 4-s, put a 225 on it. You might get by w/200 HPDI in 2 stroke. For salt, aluminum trailer much better, IMO.
I agree, get more ponies. I wouldn't want less than the F225 that I have on my 23SE,*and it*weighs less than the 2120 Sport Cabin and is a mod-v.*Go for either the F225 or the 200 HPDI.
I just bought a 2003 2120SC last October and had it out 4 times before I had to put it away for the winter. Overall I thought the boat handled well and there is plenty of room to fish or just hang out. As just about everyone said that 150 won't be enough. The boat is heavy. I have a 200 HP Yamaha 4 stroke and it does just fine. You could go up another 25 horse but you definately don't have to.
I just have a couple of suggestions:
1. Get at least the 200 Horse.
2. Get trim tabs installed. The Deep Vee will rock you quite a bit when weight shifts around and it's nice to be able to level the boat off. You also get the boat to plain out faster.
Good luck and if you want to know anything else just ask...I'll do my best to answer.
There is a new parker 21' cabin with a single yam 200 at the alligator creek marina. I followed him out of the creek yesterday and when it came to the marker that says "resume speed" all he did was dig a big hole in the water! He must need trim tabs big time or more motor!*
Thanks, I plan on sea trialing the boat w/ a F150 this weekend. I'll take plenty of people to account for the fuel, bait tank, tackle and half tower weight. Please keep the comments coming.Dan on Ahi Nui
Well Dan, did you get the sea trial done? If so, were you pleased with the results. Inquiring minds wanta know.
I have the 2120SC with the Yami F200. The boat tops out at 42mph- You will definately want trim tabs. Mine were included. I am happy with the F200 overall. The boat preforms well with this motor. I had a problem with the F200 throttle sticking when the boat was new. It went back to the dealer and has worked fine since the warranty repair. I believe this was related to the recall.
I am tall and the height of the cabin has not been a problem yet. I am very happy so far. Other than the trottle problem, I have been completely satisfied. Good luck- I am looking forward to hearing about your sea trial w/ the 150.
For what it's worth department: I've always loved the design of the Parker but having looked at them closely at the boat show, I discovered how much wood is used in the construction. This contributes to it's heavy weight and possible problems in the long haul. On the other hand I also looked at Maritime Skiff and was impressed of it's foam filled hull with no wood construction. A lighter hull that needs less HP means better fuel economy.
Parker Sport Cabin: 3250 lbs (dry hull,no gear,no power)
Maritime Skiff Pioneer:1800 lbs (dry hull,no gear,no power) Fully loaded:2839 lbs ( Max. fuel,gear and max. power)
Contrary to popular belief, there is absolutely nothing wrong with wooden stringers. In fact, there are very vew materials that are superior to wood for stringers. The problem is human error. Shoddy work and improperly encapsulated wooden stringers are susceptible to rot.
It is cheaper and ligher to build a fiberglass box around a piece of foam. While non wood substitutes won't rot, they can still be damaged if water gets in there. If all other things are equal, I would prefer a heavier boat than a lighter one. Cars are all unibody construction today because it's lighter and much cheaper to manufacture. That doens't mean it's stronger - it means it's strong enough. Full size trucks still have a chassis because they need the strength.
There is nothing wrong with a lghter weight skiff - they require less horsepower and run efficiently. However, everything is a tradeoff and in rough weather a heavier boat is a godsend.
I test rode a 2120 this Saturday. It had the 150 HPDFI. Wasn't quite a dog but I would not buy it with anything less than a 200. Of course I am upgrading from a bass boat.
"12" tabs are worthless"...you may be able to order "delete tabs" and install your own (Bennetts). Check carefully, some newer Parker hulls (exp. 23 SE) have molded in pockets for recesed tabs and are size restricted.
I have a 23sc dv with a carbed 200. Sure, I'd like more HP, but as is, she does fine. I don't find myself tinkering much with the tabs either...and most times i have a full tank of gas...perhaps the 21 could do with 175 2 stroke?
I have a new 2120 SC with the F150. I am still forming opinions about the enough power vs. the underpowered argument. I am not a performance fanatic, but am interested in enough shoulders to deal with bad waves/weather. I will post again after this weekend's runs with a more detailed opinion.