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Old 03-02-2004, 09:08 PM
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I have an old Benson Windlass (model unknown) that has been on my boat for about 15 years. This windlass has never had chain run thru it, just 1/2" anchor rode.

Since the manual on this equipment is long lost and Benson is out of the marine anchor business, is there anyway to know or test the windless to determine if it will accept chain. Don't want to destroy it, can't get parts.

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Old 03-02-2004, 09:29 PM
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Im quite certain that if you look at the gypsy (the disc that pulls the line in) you can tell if a chain fits into it. There will be notches that the chain matches up to. If it has the notches you will need to determine what size and type if chain will fit. (such as 1/4 or 5/16 chain and each size can be BBB, HT or proof and so on).
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Old 03-02-2004, 09:34 PM
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If it's made to accept chain, the gypsy will have little pockets around it that are the size of a link of chain. If it has these try a foot of several sizes until you find the size that lays around the gypsy with a link in each pocket. If you have a smooth drum type capstan, or a gypsy with just grooves, then I don't think it's meant for chain.

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parker sc ,Am currently rigging an parker xl and would like to know what type of windlass you went with, 1/2 inch or 3/8 rode,how much chain,and type of anchor. Also, what do you think of the freefall vs. powering down. How much rode do you think the locker can fit before creating a problem?
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To avoid tangling in a locker or rode jamming in a hawse pipe it is recommended to have 16-18 inches between top of the pile and gipsy. By experiments I found that 12" works well (I am using 1/2 rope with 25' 1/4 HT chain), but this will differ with different windlasses and locker configurations. Freefall is not what I would recommend. Hard to control or estimate length of rode down.

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Old 03-06-2004, 12:55 PM
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My old windlass, a "Horizon" by Simpson Lawrence, was a power down. I had a lot of trouble with that unit. Always jamming up and it had a plastic guide that had to be replaced about 5 time a year.

My new one, a "Good", is a free-fall. I think the benefit of the free-fall is speed of deployment. As for how much rode is out I have a a color coded rope (Also put out by Good) that lets you know exactly how much rope is out.

I haven't had a chance to use the new one yet (just play with it in the yard) but by looking at it's construction and size of the motor I think it's gonna be worth the few extra bucks.
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The two Benson windlass systems that I am familiar with were made for line only. They had two popular models. The Benson, and the Lil' Benny. The Lil' model was just a smaller version of the larger one. Each one had an smooth, flat aluminum cover which was about 1-1/2" tall, about 6-8" long and about 4-6" wide. A real clean looking windlass installation. They also had their own anchor and aluminum pulpit for a complete system. unless you had a long distance between the windlass and the pulpit, you didn't have enough room for chain. They were notorious for jamming, since they were power-in and power-out and didn't have a lot of room for error (twists in the line). They were most popular in the late 70's and early to mid 80's.
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Old 03-06-2004, 04:00 PM
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Aboater, you have answered my question. My windless is exactly as you describe. Therefore, based on your info it was made for rope only. Thanks.

As far as jamming, the windless I have has never jammed in either direction. Maybe I'm just lucky. However, when the windless was installed 20 years ago we installled a piece of aluminum sheet at about a 30 degree angle under the windless and down to the top of the locker. As the rope comes in, it falls in a natural coil in the locker. I guess whoever, installed mine knew what they were doing.
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I am using a Horizon 600. The new one has stainless parts instead of plastic. I easily fit 300 feet of 1/2 inch line and 20 feet of 1/4" HT chain. I got the power down model because I heard there were less problems with it.... I was told the free fall tend to jam up on the way down. Plus its hard to tell how much line you let out. The 600 comes with a wrench that fits the gypsy...about 1/4 turn free falls the anchor if you loose power or are in deep water. Good luck with your boat! I love mine!!
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capt nick. I have a 2510 and just installed a powerwinch 31 (free fall model). It's uses 1/2 in line and 1/4" hi test chain. My locker has 600 ft of line and and 20' of chain and I still have a 12 in freefall into the locker.

I haven't actually used it yet, but its set to go as soon as the boat is dunked again.
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Parker SC,
Which sc model do you have? How does she ride in a 2-3ft. chop? Also, I want to thank all you guys for your input. It makes it alot easier,this forum is really a wealth of information.
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My buddies Shamrock has a Good windlass and it is a real piece of equipment! Solidly built. http://www.goodwindlass.com/Products/Products.htm he has an 850 that is left anodized, not white like the pic. Much stronger unit than Horizen built by a family company. They also install. When my 2520xl comes in they will be installing this unit!
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