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Depending on the size of your boat, the only time you are required to slow down in the East River is when passing the ferry docks close by or if the security zone is in effect near the UN building.
Unfortunately this same info applies to the commercial traffic and can make the river a mess when the tugs are running empty and making time.
The only speed zones I know about are north of Hells gate, Up around yankee Staduim you will get a few random no wake zones. I doubt you are heading north off hells gate though as there is really not much to do there.
South of Hells gate can be pretty snotty especially in a incoming tide pushing against a 6knt east river. You are always allowed to keep enough throttle to make safe headway. I dont know if you have been there before, But you can also expect to be stopped by the CG if you are flying around the UN or Lower manhattan for "safety check" These guys take it pretty seriosly and you will be looking at a 50 cal while they check for lifejackets.
If you are coming Up the river, ..Time it. You will save yourself a TON of gas by not fighting the tide the whole way up. Get yourself on an incoming tide that is within an hour of high and it will make all the diffence in the world. Probably save you an hour off the trip too.
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The only speed zones I know about are north of Hells gate, Up around yankee Staduim you will get a few random no wake zones. I doubt you are heading north off hells gate though as there is really not much to do there.
South of Hells gate can be pretty snotty especially in a incoming tide pushing against a 6knt east river. You are always allowed to keep enough throttle to make safe headway. I dont know if you have been there before, But you can also expect to be stopped by the CG if you are flying around the UN or Lower manhattan for "safety check" These guys take it pretty seriosly and you will be looking at a 50 cal while they check for lifejackets.
If you are coming Up the river, ..Time it. You will save yourself a TON of gas by not fighting the tide the whole way up. Get yourself on an incoming tide that is within an hour of high and it will make all the diffence in the world. Probably save you an hour off the trip too.
Thanks for the great info, we will be heading beyond Hell's gate as we are on a delivery to Nova Scotia Canada.
There's really no speed restriction through the area all the way through LI Sound. Conditions may dictate otherwise and the sage advice above about timing the current is worth following.
Up through L.I. sound right? Its a very cool ride with lots to look at. What I meant by not north of Hellsgate is continuing up towards Harlem and Into the Hudson again. I assumed if you were going up the Hudson you would have stayed on the West side of manhattan
If you time the tide to be high when you are Hitting hells gate your all set. Once you take the starboard turn towards Rikers Island you are in the clear smooth water again. The water gets pretty flat in this area no matter the tide after that and you can run wide open all day. Its pretty cool when you go past laGuardia airport, Rikers island and under the Throgs Neck and the Whitestone bridge all in about 20 minutes.
Something else to note. Once you get into LI sound you will pretty quickly come upon executioners rock (legend is that the British would tie prisoners to the rocks at low tide and let nature do its job - truth or not its a good story) Its right outside of Port Washington and you can pass to either side safely , just stay in the channels. You can also expect a lot of barge activity and lots of fishermen so just be aware of it. Last year some poor sap was fishing in the channel and was run down.
Coming from new York its very easy to pass on the LI side of the rocks and ( which is tighter than the CT side but less traveled) Port Washington is a nice stopover Port too. They have a Brewers with transient slips, A cool bar/restaurant called Lou's that is waterfront and a town dock I Believe. Plenty of places to refuel too.
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I made the trip a few years back,lots of fun. I expected to get stopped but did'nt. the roughest section for me was
passing tugs under the verisano bridge ! Have fun!
agree with all above. Would add DO NOT MAKE THE RUN at dusk or night. There is TONS of debris in NY harbor and maintaining a vigilant watch is paramount. Telephone poles, mattresses, 2x4s, you name it (i have hit the latter two). Otherwise its pretty straightforward. Agree, Port Washington / Brewer Capri is a good stopover...
agree with all above. Would add DO NOT MAKE THE RUN at dusk or night. There is TONS of debris in NY harbor and maintaining a vigilant watch is paramount. Telephone poles, mattresses, 2x4s, you name it (i have hit the latter two). Otherwise its pretty straightforward. Agree, Port Washington / Brewer Capri is a good stopover...
Sounds like a wise decison. We will be leaving Liberty Landing tomorrow at about 9 am.
The only speed restrictions are 5 mph within 200' of any pier or dock; and under the DHS NY Harbor regulations, you must keep 500' from large commercial traffic (don't qoute me, but I think it means more than 100 meters in length) - I know it applies to freighters and cruise ships, not sure about the Staten Island Ferry.
I might add, Heading north leave Roosevelt Island to starboard, you don't wan't to tangle with the underwater turbines going on the other side. I almost got them. Dohhhhhhhhhh! At night with things that go bump. Double Dohhhhhhh. I didn't get the Notice to Mariners.
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Careful with the advice above regarding Execution Rocks. Before you get to Execution, there is another similar looking light called Stepping Stone Light. Stay to the left or WAY to the right, outside the 2 red cans that form a triangle with Stepping Stones. I have seen many boats pass inside the triangle - not pretty.
I might add, Heading north leave Roosevelt Island to starboard, you don't wan't to tangle with the underwater turbines going on the other side. I almost got them. Dohhhhhhhhhh! At night with things that go bump. Double Dohhhhhhh. I didn't get the Notice to Mariners.
Dont you mean to leave the island to port heading to ward the souns?
Wow, this is great stuff! I am a complete novice and find this very interesting. I live up the Hudson River and one day would like to meet my brother for a weekend or so in Montauk or Orient Point. I will definetly checking these threads if I ever get out that way.
Offshore---Are you doing that in your 40'? Did you come up from Fla? Love to here some stories or see some photos.
Good Luck and have fun, looks like clear skies and calm seas for ya!
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You can travel north leaving Roosevelt on the port but be careful as you pass the second bridge on the island to leave the three wh/orange bouys to port also those turbines have big teeth. Have a great ride. http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/12339.shtml
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offshore27ns - 5/13/2008 8:45 PMDont you mean to leave the island to port heading to ward the souns?
I don't know if you have departed yet, but yes, leave Roosevelt to your port. All the turbulence is on the other side. I ran that section at least once a week when I lived up there. The east side is flat even at the height of the run of tide. I ran in 23 & 27' boats and was never affected by the power plant discharge. The only caveat is the 40' verticle clearance for the Roosevelt Island bridge. Once passed Hell Gate you can run north between North and South Brother Islands but stick to the center of the channel. You can wave at the guards at Rikers Island prison. The barge traffic uses the wider north channel. Monitor channel 13 for any securtay transmissions. Keep Stepping Stone light to starboard and Execution to port and you'll be OK. The normal tendency when running the sound is to run the center but that's not wise. The center is littered with a minefield of lobster pots. Good luck and have a safe trip.
EAST RIVER NEW YORK...SPEED OR WAKE LIMIT????
