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Old 03-13-2008, 09:04 PM
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Was forwarded the following email today and darn if it doesn't sound like it could work...


THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY EFFORT; However IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.30 PER GALLON.



This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this please.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!

I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by this summer, and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read on and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $3.19 for regular unleaded in my town.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not sellers.

With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.

The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.

But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.

If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.
If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) .. and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.
If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!

(If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am . so trust me on this one.

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days !!!

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:48 PM
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The answer is NO it won't work.......at $110/barrel the cost of the crude oil alone for a gallon of gas would be right at $2.00/gal.......add tax transportation and refining cost and it would still be almost $3.00/gal just to break even. The big oil companies make lots of money(total) but their margins are very small (less than10%).

The only way to bring the price down is to bring the price of crude oil down.
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And as soon as Mobil lowered the price a few cents below others they would be swamped with penny pinchers.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:07 PM
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i havent bought Exxon since the Valdez oil spill in Alaska and how they handled the whole thing.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:44 PM
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With the attack on the dollar from Islamic nations, oil is going to do nothing but sky rocket. Soon the US will be covered with compact cars just like Europe.

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Old 03-14-2008, 01:54 AM
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Wouldn't work anyway. All the gas you buy in your town probably comes from one refinery. Whether that refinery is owned by Exxon or somebody else is beside the point. When an Exxon truck pulls in to the loading dock, they just add in Exxon additives. If a Citgo truck pulls in, they just add in citgo addititives. We have an Exxon refinery right here in BR. Every brand fuel truck for 100 miles in any direction gets their gas there. You didn't really think they were transporting refined gasoline from the nearest Exxon refinery to every town in the US did you? That could be a 1000 miles away from some places. If there's an Exxon refinery near you, chances are, you are buying Exxon gas, no matter what it says on the gas pump.
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But hey, there's no collusion between the oil co's.
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:12 AM
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What would you do? Your refinery is located 1000 miles away from town X, but you want to sell gas there. Contract with the closest refinery to supply your gas and in return you will supply their gas in towns close to your refinery. Been going on for a LONG time. Besides, you think gas prices are high now? Wait till they have to truck it in from 1000 miles away.
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:17 AM
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I am not surprised that he is a RETIRED Coca Cola executive.
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:45 AM
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that scenario in one form or another has been around for a while on the internet...

here's Snopes.com's take on it... http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp
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The answer is NO it won't work.......at $110/barrel the cost of the crude oil alone for a gallon of gas would be right at $2.00/gal.......add tax transportation and refining cost and it would still be almost $3.00/gal just to break even. The big oil companies make lots of money(total) but their margins are very small (less than10%).

The only way to bring the price down is to bring the price of crude oil down.
1 barrel = 42 US gallons.

$110/42 = $2.62 per gallon.

Thats $2.62 for the raw unrefined straight out of the ground oil.

I point this out because I think you think a barrell is 55 US gallons.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:20 AM
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Is the idea of a gas boycott is to stay home and have everything delivered????
Any boycott would such be a waste of effort. There would be a notable increase in sales, the days prior to and after the target date.
BackinBlack your absolutely on the mark. I worked in several refineries in the North East. They have shared use of underground petrol lines And rent bulk storage facilities with each other.
Many times the only difference would the price or the microns rating of the filters on the pump.
What documentation is there to substantiate what additives work best or even work at boycott.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:16 AM
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truepursuit- You hit the nail on the head-- For every gallon of gas that you buy, more than 70% of that cost goes to the oil guys (Yes that includes Exxon but is largely arab nations, venezuela, etc.)-- After that initial 70%, the next 30% goes to the government and transportation (kind of an increasing issue since transportation cost is based on the cost of the product you are transporting)-- Lastly, the refineries and gas station owners collectively split around 10% of the total pie or .30 on a $3.00 gallon of gas---

It is very simple to rant and rave against major oil, but the problem lies in OPEC and the foreign producers-- They are the ones that are raping the US since the cost to produce in those nations is a fraction of the cost to produce in the GOM-- If this keeps at the current pace, a significant amount of US business will be owned and controlled by foreign investors---

Think about this as you go to elect teh next president-- Topic #1 should be a national energy policy--
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Somebody must have a Nigerian pen pal


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Wont make a bit of difference, allot of smaller companies still get their oil from them, and all the major refineries are run by them so every one get their gas in some way shape or form from them anyway.
Its a legal monopoly, that our government has allowed to happen because so many politicans are paid by them. By the way do you know where their corpaorate Headquarters is located.....Thats right Texas, remember who came from Texas and "used" to actually be in the oil buisness.......our president GW.
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Lets see he is an ex Coke-Cola Executive and had no problem charging $1.00 to 1.35 for a 16oz Coke. So that is over $4.00 for a gallon of Coke which I'm sure is much cheaper to produce than gas. Not defending the Oil guys just making the comparison.
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Fishcop- Who is them ? I assume that "them" is Major Oil---Who sets the price of oil ? Not Major Oil companies but open market traders that trade based on supply/ demand fundamentals which is govered and controlled largely by OPEC (Saudi, Kuwait, Iran, Venezuela, Iraq, etc.)--- I hate to rain on your parade as it seems like alot of people like to bash oil companies but the issue is in Crude Oil and supplies-- once we open up Alaska (if we ever do) and get oil sand crude oil down from Canada, we will lessen our dependence on imported supplies-- Until that happens, be prepared to pay at the pump and line the pockets of the international oil suppliers !!!!

By the way, most US oil companies are located in Texas- It IS the nations largest refinery state--


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The only real way to save money on gas or diesel is to use less. Ideas such as the topic attempt to find a way to lower prices without any pain by the consumer. Essentially a "free lunch" and as many in the business world know the "free lunch" does not exist in reality.

Face it, the vast majority of us will now be factoring in the cost of fuel in everything we do.. No more trips to the store to get one item. No more 6000 lb SUVs for mom to drive the kids around and get groceries. Probably change a lot of things we maybe didn't really need to make us happy in the first place. Will be tough for many boaters.

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Drill Alaska !!
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Drill Alaska !!
EXACTLY--
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