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Old 02-22-2008, 07:22 AM   #1
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Anyone out there had experience with mico-commander electronic controls. There is a boat that is sporting them that I am curious about. Never heard much about them either way. They were installed around 2000 and rigged to 92 series detroits. They are single lever. Any feedback is appreciated.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:09 PM   #2
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These are Mathers controls now sold under the ZF Gear name. Check with a ZF dealer. They work fine. Slight delay when sifting same as all electronic controls. Should be OK but check to see if ZF still supports and services them.
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I have them on my boat and really like them, as previous post stated there is a delay which you get used to very quickly. No trouble at all since 2001.
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I have them and really love them. You get over the delay after the first close call hitting the dock!!!

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Old 02-26-2008, 07:27 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info. I didn't know that they are now Mathers. I have DDEC 92s on my Hatt, and the delay took a very short time to get used to. I coulddn't find anything on them and was curious about major issues, etc.
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:22 AM   #6
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The Micro Commander is one of many models of ZF controls. The "Micro Commander" is the model used when all of your componants are mech. in operation. Mech. governor/ throttle and mech shift/troll operation. Other models incorporate fully electronic or hybrid operations. The "shift delay" is actually an interpretation from the helm. There really is not any delay. If you are used to shifting a cable system, the response is immediate because as your hand is moving from neutral to the ahead detent. The clutch pressure is starting to build as your hand is moving towards the detent. So, you useally have engagement at that moment. With any electronic control actuator system, you are getting instant response once you arrive at the ahead detent. The percieved delay, is clutch pressure does not happen until the moment the lever moves to the detent position. Basically, you are adding an extra step in the process of shifting your gearbox. The advantage is there is useally only a small morse 33C cable run from the processor to the engine and gearbox. This makes it much less suseptable binding and slop. The other advantage is you only have a small 8 conductor cable running to the helm and or tower. Another advantage is single lever operation and troll valve protection if you have it. Sorry about my grammer and spelling!
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If you have two stations you will notice two main differences from the mechanical system. As others mentioned there is a little delay from moving the handle until you get the response from the engine, but you will soon get used to it. Another issue is the need for alway setting the handle you are using into neutral before you can use the other. This means that if you are inside and wants to change to the control outside on deck or flybrigde you will have to put the gear and gas to neutral before moving to the other station. So before going into narrow conditions you should choose which station to use.
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If you have two stations you will notice two main differences from the mechanical system. As others mentioned there is a little delay from moving the handle until you get the response from the engine, but you will soon get used to it. Another issue is the need for alway setting the handle you are using into neutral before you can use the other. This means that if you are inside and wants to change to the control outside on deck or flybrigde you will have to put the gear and gas to neutral before moving to the other station. So before going into narrow conditions you should choose which station to use.
I have four Mathers stations on our boat,I can switch stations without putting original station in neutral ...however new station must be in neutral and engage button activated before it will respond.
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Interesting, I will check if I too have this option..:-)
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I have four Mathers stations on our boat,I can switch stations without putting original station in neutral ...however new station must be in neutral and engage button activated before it will respond.
That's the way mine are, just push the button and that control is now live, but it must be in neutral / idle . When you activate a control it makes the other one un-activated. It's only 1 station at a time. So if you are cruising along and switch stations when you push the button the engines go to idle and neutral , this is with single lever controls.
The delay can be adjusted to a certain extent. Lots of adjustments available when you go into setup mode.
I didn't have any trouble getting used to the delay, but the ease of movement and remembering to activate a control took me a while.
You will like the controls much more than the Detroits
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