HPDIs & Four Strokes a thing of the Past??? - The Hull Truth

Oouthere · 09-01-2002, 10:04 PM

Pretty neat stuff in fuelless technology.......petroleum engines may be a thing of the past!

http://www.tilleyfoundation.com/validation.htm

Rich

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.

deepsleep · 09-01-2002, 10:31 PM

It would appear that this guy knows how to beat the laws of thermodynamics--if that is the case, he will be very rich, and energy will be too cheap to sell--it will be free. I live in Nashville, maybe I'll check it out for a good laugh. deepsleep

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MarkA · 09-01-2002, 10:37 PM

Man, that's hilarious that he used a Delorean. Does it have the same Mr. Fusion 2000 that they had in Back to the Future?

Stick a couple of aluminum cans in there... good to go!

I want to see the Flux Capacitor in action. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]

Oouthere · 09-01-2002, 10:57 PM

I don't think he's found a way to beat thermodynamics but only how to apply it correctly. Mr. Jakelj of Slovenia developed a very simple motor that developed 334hp @ 1000 rpm with 5kw input plus got a patent on it but could not get the manufacturers to mass produce it. This engine in a self sustained mode would weight less than 200lbs and immediately destroy the petroleum engine industry as well as the petroleum producers lively hood.

http://www.nuenergy.org/jakelj.htm

I'm building a smaller version (roughly estimated 40hp @ 1800 rpm) on a 15kw generator head. The design is so simple it's sick, should have 10kw excess energy for home use.

For anyone that says this stuff cannot be, just check out www.rexresearch.com and read the generator section with the old clippings of the early 1900s. Plus there is John Bedini's & Mr. Bearden's sites with prototypes he has built that also run.

http://www.icehouse.net/john1/john.html
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/oulist.htm

Rich

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.

trouty · 09-02-2002, 03:49 AM

Yes - it seems theres a great deal of interest beginning to generate around the world in alternate energys and not before time too.

I guess if the world oil monopoly cartel ever allow such inventions to reach mass production, then the age of black gold will be well and truly over.

One wonders therefore, why it is were planning to go into Iraq?

What have the arabs got to "protect" as far as oil reserve assetts are concerned?

We could well be fighting over something that bye the time we have secured it is worthless anyway! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

What a phunny ol world we live in!

Cheers!

KevinA · 09-02-2002, 05:02 AM

Hok-um. I can hear the zzzzzzz of the reel...fish on!! ..may even be a double!

Take a hard & detailed look into the Carnot Engine(perpetual motion machine, 101 level physics). It's a great theoretical excercise, but that's all it is. You can not do work(in a thermodynamic sense) without consuming energy...and no process to do so can be 100% efficient.

Your generator will produce heat in the course of generating power. This form of energy is lost to the atmosphere...how is it replaced? (PFM is the wrong answer) As any liveaboard boater knows, heat generation requires a great deal of energy. If the heat energy isn't replaced then how can the batteries remain fully charged? There are no line losses in the resistors, switches, relays(all are heat generators)? Either you're getting greater than 100% efficiency...or "just using thermodynamics correctly"..LOL. If you can't answer these questions, then it's best if you stick to your day job, or at least keep your money folded in half and in your pocket.

From an economic point of view, they wouldn't be discussing this in a public forum without patent protection. By the look of the references any patents to pull this off(even if it is just an advance to the art) would have expired by this time. With expired patents and huge sums of money to be made this technology would be everywhere already & no cartel, government, conspiracy on earth would hold it back.

Oouthere · 09-02-2002, 06:13 AM

lol, ok... I'll stick to my day job....electronics.

Rich

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.

trouty · 09-02-2002, 11:44 AM

Saw a short (10 minute) report tonight on the idiot box for an Aussie "invention", that claims to provide up to 40% energy (fuel) savings, for trucks involved in stop start freight haulage.

What they have done is wrap a hyraulic pump around the tailshaft of such trucks.

Once the fule is brurnt to start the truck in motion - any time it has to "stop for traffic or stop lights etc, all that energy used to get it rolling is lost - wasted.

This system uses the hydraulic motor on the tailshaft to pump oil into two large reservoir tanks that presumably "pressurize air" inside the tanks as the oil fills them.

Then when you take off - the compressed air forces the oil backwards out of the reservoirs, and assists driving the tailshaft, thus saving on fuel to get moving again.

They claim up to 40% in stop / start traffic applications.

US Army has backed it to the tune of $25US Mill according to the news report.

Not quite rocket science - just Aussie ingenuity.

Every large fiscal house in Oz laughed when they sought development funds, BUT now that the US has backed it, all the fiscal folks want on board...

This happens ALL THE TIME, in Oz - great inventions never get up for lack of backers! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

Were an inventive lot bye and large...just non of our financial institutions have any faith in Aussie ingenuity!

Remember Ralph Sarich who invented the electronic fuel injection system (to power his revolutionary orbital engine concept) now in use in Merc OB's?...took him over 20 years to gain any backing and he had to go offshore to do it! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

I worry bout this country, I really do! No one with ANY vision [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

When I'm benevolent dictater - things will be different! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

Cheers!

Oouthere · 09-02-2002, 02:02 PM

Trouty,

'Guess you've heard of the Lutech 1000??? If not, www.lutec.com.au

Another good Aussie idea.

Rich

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.

trouty · 09-02-2002, 08:23 PM

Thats one I hadn't heard of. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]

Course as inventive a lot as we are, I still don't think anyone yet has for sheer simplicity and sales potential, surpassed the inventiveness of your Dr Maimes Dobson, with his Tabby tamer....

Now theres a winner if ever I saw one!

Yes - destined to be a Walmart super seller that one! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

Cheers!

Oouthere · 09-02-2002, 08:57 PM

LOL! I would suppose it's safe for use on a neighbor's kid?

Rich

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.

james b · 09-03-2002, 07:07 PM

Thanks Trouty
that is one of the few posts that actually made
me get up and walk away from the pc for a few
minutes, that cat carrier is hilarious.
Will they ever make one large enough to carry
around the girlfriend? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]

Oouthere · 09-04-2002, 06:23 PM

The Tilley Foundation's next display of this technology is a Cesna aircraft and has already been converted and approved by the FAA.

I can hardly wait!!!

Rich

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.

Oouthere · 09-07-2002, 08:51 PM

I drove to Nashville today and witnessed the running of the car. The car was perfectly silent except for the sound of tires and fan noise during the first lap running 80 mph. On lap 12 (1.33 mile track) you could hear a tire noise and on lap 13 it blew a wheel bearing.

I know some will say it's a fake but I say it is a wheel bearing. When they try again I'll drive the 16 hours again if my schedule allows.

Rich

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.

trouty · 09-08-2002, 06:18 AM

I'd love tohave seen that - a DeLorian doing 80 miles an hour with just the fan and tyres noise - that would be something!

I wouldn't doubt something simple like a wheel bearing would be enough to knobble it, can't help wondering if the oil based military industrial complex deliberately sabotaged it! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Imagine what a DeLorian wheel bearing would cost as a spare part! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif[/img]

Maybe they should lash out for the next test, and try 4 new wheel bearings just to be sure.

The Cessna would be an interesting ride- just the noise of the prop!
Almost like a glider! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]
One wonders where it will all end!

Cheers n keep us posted - I'd like to see where this all goes!

Oouthere · 12-11-2002, 08:33 PM

For those interested Tilley has now completed and tested an over unity ATV or for the less free thinker, more nuts falling from the trees.

http://www.tilleyfoundation.com/validation.htm

2000 17' Sea Chaser
1993 26' Proline WAC
Mercruisers are good for one thing....fixing.