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Old 02-17-2008, 01:40 PM
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In this case, I think that one is fair game to poke "fun" of when they have and flaunt an awesome/impressive/expensive CC fishing boat as you do with all the bells and whistles but doesn't really fish or want to scratch their stainless steel anchor; and one who drives a very expensive BMW automobile and likely spends little time getting their "hands dirty" either with the automobile or the boat. To me that is just plain funny and a contradiction.

rediculous...been boating for 40 years, rebuilt two boats and installed everything on my boat I own now....once again a hip shoot that shows you have no idea who you're speaking to.... and sorry I get my cars for free....and yes I fish..but I'm sure you 'll say this is not manly enuf...


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I apologize for the fishing comment. Nice YTs....what time is dinner?
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I'm more interested in finding out how you get away with fish on the kitchen countertop before cleaning i would have gotten shot for that one.
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I apologize for the fishing comment. Nice YTs....what time is dinner?
oh hell, I have no idea how to cut em up....that's my fishing partners' job for the last 9 years...I captain, own the boat and rods (Avets and quantum cabos), he angles and is a consumate chef.....

when i lived in MD we just cruised from the bohemia thru the magothy and down to the solomons..owned a family boat them - a 72 pacemaker 32 sedan that needed to be rebuilt from the ground up due to a FG hull and wood sides....did it myself...that's where i learned to lay glass....and what great people at West systems....
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I'm more interested in finding out how you get away with fish on the kitchen countertop before cleaning i would have gotten shot for that one.
rented condo...no women in the house.......Bimini Sands Condos....
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One other thing that I found when investigating repowering options on an older (1996) hull, the V8 Yamaha 300/350, would not tilt out of the water completely........probably not the case on all hulls, of course,....but something that should be considered if wet slip your 23-27 footer...........its worth checking out......
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One other thing that I found when investigating repowering options on an older (1996) hull, the V8 Yamaha 300/350, would not tilt out of the water completely........probably not the case on all hulls, of course,....but something that should be considered if wet slip your 23-27 footer...........its worth checking out......
Good point. It was the case for Parker as they had to beef up and also extend the Armstrong bracket/swim platform about 4 inches on the 25 and 28, otherwise the the motor cover wold strike the upper transom edge.



Thought I recognized the Bimini Sands kitchen area. Is that some sort of gunnel cap protector in pic 2?
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hmmm......the height of the motor interfering with being able to tilt all the way up is something I haven't thought about.....I am glad you mentioned that!
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Since the OP was asking what to replace twin 225's with, you really think the 300 would be enough? Doubt it. 350 might get the numbers you want, not the F300 for sure.....
That is a fair question. If rharris wants to repower to a single *and* 300 HP is not enough then that eliminates the Suzuki from considerartion and for all pratical purposes means the F350 is the only option.
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One other thing that I found when investigating re-powering options on an older (1996) hull, the V8 Yamaha 300/350, would not tilt out of the water completely.
This is a very good point. Because the V-8 power head is taller, it may not work on *some* boats. OMC ran into this problem with their V-8 outboards back in the late 1980s. Boats then were not designed for such big motors. Today is a very different environment but older boats being re-powered need to consider the height-of-powerhead dimension.
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I think the problem that Yamaha has to overcome is that they brought out the F350 first and then announced the F300 later. Just how many F225's do you think they would have sold had the F250 been out first. In the past for the most part it has gone up in HP not down.
Actually this is not true at all. In the history of outboards it is far more common that when a radically new platform is introduced, a relatively high horsepower model is brought to market first and then smaller horsepower derivatives are brought in to fill the gap even as more and more refined versions of the original are developed which often lead to more powerful models.

I am old enough to remember the introduction of the V-6 outboard, OMC's Johnson and Evinrude 200. This was the summer of 1975 and at that time the most powerful outboards were OMC's 140 V-4 and Mercury's inline six 150. A 200 HP outboard was almost incomprehensible back then as that was the realm of V-8 sterndrives.

This 1976 Johnson/Evinrude 200 was then followed up with the 175 and 150 HP versions in 1977 and 1978. Likewise Mercury quickly followed suit to introducing their first V-6 outboard, the BlackMax 175 which was subsequently followed by the 150.

OMC then tweaked the V-6 to make their 235 HP model and Mercury upped theirs to 200 and then 225 HP.

When the first four-stroke V-6 was introduced, what HP was it? That's right, it was Yamaha's F225 which was then followed by the F200 and only later the F250.

It is pretty obvious what Yamaha is doing. They introduce a very big and robust new outboard, the V-8 four-stoke at 350 HP. They follow that up with a 300 HP to fill the gap between 250 and 350. Duh. It is quite obvious that 5.3 liters of displacement is ultimately going to yield far more than 350 HP. I guarantee you Yamaha will introduce a four-stroke 400 HP outboard based on this motor.
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Pass the Pop Corn. Get me another beer..
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hmmm.....so what you are saying is that a 400 may be on the horizon? I wonder what that baby will cost?
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