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Glen you're such a fag. You continue to prove that thread after thread after thread....
yeah.... I know..and I'll get over it.... and be here long after you graduate high school and move on into the semi skilled work force...I suggest UTI....
Really the reason I am thinking about repowering is that I am tired of working on the engines all the time. It seems that I am in the nickel and dime stage with them and all I do is fiddle with minor engine related stuff on the weekends instead of fishing. You are right, though. You can burn a LOT of gas even at 3.50/gallon before justifying the cost of a new motor. The motors actually run like sewing machines, but its the trim motors or something like that all the time to be replaced. A shiny new motor on back would just give me warmer, fuzzier feelings about my boat I suppose.
rharris,
Yeah, I hear ya. Really, is there a bad 300 HP motor made today? I think any one of them would suit your needs base on what you have said. In your situation, it sounds as if you want something reliable and not necessary milk the last MPH out of the rig. Do I read you correctly?
In that case I would suggest you look at a couple factors. Who is making the most reliable motor? What motor will last the longest? Who is the most convenient dealer near you that you have a good relationship with? Who is offering the best warranty? In other words, what will be the lowest "hassle factor"?
so tell me tom... why would anyone by a dumbed down Y300 that weighs what a 350 does?... which is 200 lbs more than the Zuke or Verado or WAY more than your fav motor, the E300?...humor me...show me a situation that the Y300 fits....
so hows that corner you just backed into .... a little tight?
I'm glad you asked Glen. Let's talk my situation, 25 foot Whaler, 300 Maximum horsepower rating. The F300 would be a perfect fit for me and would weigh less than the twin Mercury 150s I have in there now. The question for you is why WOULDN't that be a great application for the F300?
so tell me tom... why would anyone by a dumbed down Y300 that weighs what a 350 does?... which is 200 lbs more than the Zuke or Verado or WAY more than your fav motor, the E300?...humor me...show me a situation that the Y300 fits....
so hows that corner you just backed into .... a little tight?
I'm glad you asked Glen. Let's talk my situation, 25 foot Whaler, 300 Maximum horsepower rating. The F300 would be a perfect fit for me and would weigh less than the twin Mercury 150s I have in there now. The question for you is why WOULDN't that be a great application for the F300?
because the zuke 300 at 200 lbs less would be better......duh........and MUCH MUCH better mpg..the zuke is the KING of fuel efficiency...period....do a search....
Why? That's a honest question. Don't give offer up that adolescent "...duh..." crap. Lets hear some well reasoned thoughts from you for a change without the snide insinuations.
I agree that less weight *can* be a good thing. I also agree that I like to debate. What's wrong with that?
I also do not think much of those who are afraid of honest debate and want to end things with quips like "...period." or "...case closed." I got news for you my friend, the case is not closed and the debate will continue. Another thread will start tomorrow or next week or....
Nothing wrong with that as everybody reading this thread and following The Hull Truth can benefit by the ongoing discussion. That is the entire point of having a discussion area. Why do you get so upset when not everybody agrees with you?
because tom...this is not CW....your logic is not firm.....a Y300 is a stupid move and you have no facts to support why putting 200 lbs on the transom makes sense when a zuke 300 will do much better.......and you dismissed my 1st opin as "nonsense".... what happened to "respectfully disagree"? I love you guys that bash and then get so sanctimonius when I get blunt...
It is nonsense to suggest that 800 pounds of outboard on a transom is "too much" while at the same time 900 pounds of outboard is OK. That is perfectly illogical.
I again ask why, apart from an added 200 pounds, an F300 on my boat (or any other) is "a stupid move..." Every motor is going to have its benefits and liabilities. Weight is but one of many factors in deciding what motor is best for a given application. To suggest that it merely depends on weight is also nonsense.
especially when a Z300 will smoke a Y300!.....gotta due to the weight....I can't beleive my ears after watching you pontificate all these years about how etecs are great due to the weight/power realtionship..
stupid move = y300 at 800 lbs
smart move = z 300 at 600 lbs - with better mpg + holeshot
your call...professor.....c'mon tom - no one except you has EVER posted HERE that the Y300 is a smart move.....sure you just don't wanna argue? I'll hang with you....When I have the CEO of a major boat company face to face saying he does not understand it, I think you're just reaching...oh but you inner circle CW guys know it all......
Eight cylinders vs. six. Yamaha F300 with 5.3 liters of dislacement vs. 4.0 liters for the DF300. As they say, there is no replacement for displacement.
I have a well respected Yamaha dealer (Jacobsen's Marine) one mile from my house that I have been doing business with since I was a teenager. I do not even know who deals Suzuki in Seattle.
Those are two very compelling reasons for me to consider the Yamaha F300.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this whole F300 thing really seems like a joke. If Yamaha is your only choice, and the F250 is really as strong as everyone says it is, would that be the better option when considdering the F300?? Weighing in over 200 lbs more than the 250, I really don't think that the added performance of the F300 would do much for this type of application. It seems to me, that the only reason Yamaha introduced this motor was for boats that have a 300 HP max, and cannot be rated for the 350....I would be very curious to see a test of say a 23 footer with the F250 and F300...I highly doubt Yamaha would ever do this, because it might make them look bad.....
Eight cylinders vs. six. Yamaha F300 with 5.3 liters of dislacement vs. 4.0 liters for the DF300. As they say, there is no replacement for displacement.
I have a well respected Yamaha dealer (Jacobsen's Marine) one mile from my house that I have been doing business with since I was a teenager. I do not even know who deals Suzuki in Seattle.
Those are two very compelling reasons for me to consider the Yamaha F300.
yeah there is... when they make 8 cyl only do the work of 6 and add 200 lbs....paying for stuff you don't get..you know they just dumbed down the ECM....redicuolus. take apic on delivery and send it to yam for the website as the first 300 buyer....I'll photoshop "idiot" over your eyes to protect your ID....don't thank me....
until now it has been a philisophical arguement..now you bring in reality...just like a CW professor...you're right..have fun with your extra 200 lbs....I suggest atkins for you and your crew..it might work long term.....watch that cowl when your at sea...it's a big one....
oh I forgot...why not the 300 etec? got no dealer for that too?
You know the y300 is much more serviceable than the zuke 300.......Suzuki is still behind the curve as far as readily available service centers.....that alone makes
the Yami 300 viable in many cases. The weight factor is certainly something to consider but generally if you are replacing twins you are still coming down in weight
from the original set-up.
agreed..make sure you send us a pic of your Y300 ...upon receipt, I will post on every site, you bought one, mounted it on your BW and I will give a public apology that I was wrong........
Re: single 300 zuke vs 350 yammie on 26cc?? 
