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Old 01-29-2008, 05:32 PM
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Default cc 28 lousy on the drift???

i know that it has been well described how lousy the carolina classic 28 is on the drift (=wicked side-to-side rock). i was wondering how one would compare the 28 ft carolina classic (with no tower) on the drift versus say a 29 ft regulator center console. everyone comments on how bad the 28 ft carolina classic is on the drift, to me, i would think that a boat like the regulator 29 ft center console(29 ft in length, beam 9'6", 24 degrees deadrise at the transom = very similar spec's as the cc 28) would also be lousy on the drift with that wicked roll. yet people do not seem to complain about the way those regulators drift??? are the carolina classic's extraordinarily bad on the drift or are all those boats with 24 degrees of deadrise at the transom (ie regulator, contender, mckeecraft, jupiter, yellowfin, etc...) that bad?
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The deadrise has alot to do with it, but so does the hull shape and how chines are used.

Before I bought my 23 Contender, I was worried about the same thing. I took a test ride and my worries were gone. Although it's a24degre deadrise, the large chines near the water line keeps the boat very stable at drift.
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mine was unbearable drifting in anything more than a 1 to 2 foot Lake ontario chop. the boat is really meant for trolling. It is probably not as bad in the ocean with the longer period of the waves, but a tight chop sent everything that wasn't nailed down in the cockpit sliding back and forth.
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Just a note, I have had 3 SeaCrafts, my current one is a 20 master Angler with a T Top and drifts dead sideways to the wind and rocks like crazy. The others didn't have T Tops and as designed drifted extremely well, I even try and straighten it out and back sideways ??
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Can't speak to the CC28 specifically, but my 28 Albemarle definitely rocks and rolls on the drift. Especially anything over 1-2ft, stuff is sliding all over the place. However, I would say it's not any worse than the rock and roll of my 23 Regulator on drift. It was not exactly pleasant on the drift either. It's all a trade off I guess. Depends on if you mostly drift with a little trolling or vice versa..

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....so, if drift fishing is what is mostly done in the Gulf, what brand between 24-29' would you suggest? Preferably a WA.
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Well, in my opinion if you are mainly drift fishing you should try an Edgewater or Mckee Craft. I have ridden on both of them and they seem to be very stable boats. We do trolling, anchored bottom, and drift fishing and my boat will rock and roll, but I would rather have a solid ride to and from my spots.
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....so, if drift fishing is what is mostly done in the Gulf, what brand between 24-29' would you suggest? Preferably a WA.
This was very important to me when I was looking. A boat that not only rode well, but drifted and anchored well, as I spend my time about 1/3 drift, 1/3 trolling, and 1/3 anchored. I'm not promoting Hydra-Sports brand, but my boat (2390 Vector) has a 21 inch deadrise, nearly 9 foot beam, but weighs about 5000# pounds. Basically, the lower deadrise and the wider beam to length ratio makes it very stable on the drift, while the weight gives it it's good ride (not the deadrise). They have changed that hull to a 23 degree deadrise (now the 2500 CC or VX), so I'm not sure if it's quite as good on the drift as the older models. In general, though, I would be looking for a beamy, heavy boat with a bit lower deadrise, regardless of mfg.
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28 Southport Express if you want a walkaround, rolling will not be an issue, and you will love the ride. Not a true walkaround, but you can get up and round the cabin on them.
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I am glad to know the Bertram 20 isn't the only one with this problem!
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28 Southport Express if you want a walkaround, rolling will not be an issue, and you will love the ride.* Not a true walkaround, but you can get up and round the cabin on them.
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Length 28'6?
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28 Southport Express if you want a walkaround, rolling will not be an issue, and you will love the ride.* Not a true walkaround, but you can get up and round the cabin on them.
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Length 28'6?
Beam 10'6?
Deadrise 22°
Weight 7400 lbs
Southport Express looks like a good boat for what we do with one. thanks!
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There is no substitute for the quality and weight of the CC when Ya' have to cruise. Sure there are plenty of boats that will drift better and some rock and roll more than others, But as far as comfort and durability and oh yeah, economy...I'll take the Carolina Classic.
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I would sea trial the CC 28 to see if it is expectable to your needs. We have a 34 CV diesel that has a deep V and I think it drifts really well. The lower center of gravity is what I contribute to its easier motion. Our last boat was a 35 Contender and would rock and roll too but it wasn't unbearable to me. I have been on a 28 CC in a charter and I thought the boat was extremely impressive, but we were not drift fishing. There is a tradeoff on all boats, but every hull is different in its characteristics so a sea trial is extremely important. Good luck, but I wouldn't scratch the 28 CC off your list until you sea trial it for yourself.
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The new SP 28 express has a small cockpit relative to similar boats in that size range. For less roll at drift in a w/a or express, I would look at these brands for models in the 25'-30' range.

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My WC is very rolly in a beam drift...as is any deep V without outrageous reverse chines. My simple fix is a drift sock or a 5 gallon bucket with holes in it off the appropriate cleat.
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Default Re: cc 28 lousy on the drift???

had a 27 albie with yanmars ,no tower ,just hard top. drift socks ,buckets etc would not stop this boat from rocking. I had a full cooler almost take someone out one day as it went from one side of the boat to the other. with that being said -m I was usually the first boat home as it rode awesome in the slop. I personally would rather get to where im going comfortably. I now have a 266 sailfish and she does rock some but not bad. I also run confortably in the slop. tradeoffs for everything
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My WC is very rolly in a beam drift...as is any deep V without outrageous reverse chines. My simple fix is a drift sock or a 5 gallon bucket with holes in it off the appropriate cleat.
Thanks for the Cat information, Greg. Funny that you brought it up because I'm looking at a cat tomorrow. While completely un-used to offshore boating, could I suspect that any boat adrift would benefit from that 5-gallon bucket sea anchor approach?
I can't expect a victory at getting my bride to go offshore unless there are ways to minimize rolling. The 26' sailboat I got her lasted 40 days....she spazzed out when the sail got deployed and we got into a 10 degree list.... but she's the best chef for me this side of the Netherlands!
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ever try smart rails
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Rock or pound it's all a tradeoff. Try some smartrails if you want to reduce the rock.
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