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I going for my second look at this boat. I compared it to many of the 23 WA and this one did stand out to me because of price, it is a leftover, and features. Does anyone have some real world experience with this boat? It will be powered by a 225 Opti and is fully optioned. I understand that this boat is not at the same level as a Grady but price is a major consideration in my purchase. I do not want to go used.....I want the engine warrantees. Thanks
trophy has come along way over the last couple year's.with that being said i still don't think they have come far enough to justify there prices.there are allot of other better boat's for the money in my opinion with a little better resale.
fished one last year and thought it was pretty nice. Decent fuel burn and kinda fast for single power. The seas were mostly flat so I don't really know what it does with any kind of sea.
I've spent quite a bit of time on the 2002 (just like the 2302 but only a 21') the 2352 (yours but with an I/O) and the 2359. I was happy with the price/performance/quality as well. I bought one new in 1999 and had no major problems for 8 years. I stated back then that as teh brand grows in popularity and gains positive name recognition, the price will go up as well. That indeed is happening. They are still a pretty good bang for the buck, but like anything else as more people figure it out, the prices will rise and they will no longer be as good of a bargain.
They are comparable to other boats in that size & style in terms of safety and handling. The anchor locker doesn't have pretty gelcoat inside, but I don't want to pay twice what a boat is worth in order to have a pretty anchor locker. There is nothing wrong with wanting a boat with a higher finish level, but it's up to an individual of how much of a premium are they willing to pay for finish level and name recognition.
Once they reach that overpriced mark, the selling rationale switches from "great bang for the buck" to "you get what you pay for & this kind of quality costs money".
I have a 2004 25' CC and lOVE IT. Dry, good on fuel, all the features that I could want, and I got it as a demo so the price was right with all the warrenties of a new boat. no complaints, go for it.
The problem with Bayliner Trophy's is the low tier name, low-average quality components, low resell value but yet they are trying to sell them for mid tier price. Its ridiculous.
Just spend a little more and get a real nice good quality boat that doesn't have the Bayliner name attached to it. When its time to trade up, you'll thank me you didn't buy a Bayliner cause you be raped on its resell value.
The problem with Bayliner Trophy's is the low tier name, low-average quality components, low resell value but yet they are trying to sell them for mid tier price. Its ridiculous.
Just spend a little more and get a real nice good quality boat that doesn't have the Bayliner name attached to it. When its time to trade up, you'll thank me you didn't buy a Bayliner cause you be raped on its resell value.
I knew it was only a matter of time before some cretin with room temperature IQ would bring this thread down to his/her level. Not to confuse you with FACTS, but Bayliner & Trophy are two different boat lines, made in different locations, and with different hull warranties. I bought one new for $32k and sold it for $24k 8 years later. I could have bought a Grady and spent $64k and sold it for 48k 8 years later. Do the math you ignorant fool before you post garbage like that.
They aren't for everybody, but that doesn't mean you have to act so condescending. There are plenty of people who know a fair amount about boats, have a decent amount of disposable income, and still choose to go with a brand they feel offers more bang for the buck. I have nothing against Grady owners and nothing against Trophy owners. I just dislike people who need to justify themselves by dragging others down.
I had a higher priced higher tier boat and then moved to a Trophy. Did you hear me bashing Gradys and saying they are overpriced pieces of garbage with soft bulkheads & rotten transoms? No. I like Gradys and Trophies, but I guess something like that is too complicated for your little mind.
jobowker - 1/25/2008 9:34 PM
There are plenty of people who know a fair amount about boats, have a decent amount of disposable income, and still choose to go with a brand they feel offers more bang for the buck.
__________________ 2004 Trophy 2902 WA with Merc 225 EFIs
Sucks gas and hauls ass!
One step ahead and you are a genius, two steps ahead and you are a misfit.
The problem with Bayliner Trophy's is the low tier name, low-average quality components, low resell value but yet they are trying to sell them for mid tier price. Its ridiculous.
Just spend a little more and get a real nice good quality boat that doesn't have the Bayliner name attached to it. When its time to trade up, you'll thank me you didn't buy a Bayliner cause you be raped on its resell value.
I knew it was only a matter of time before some cretin with room temperature IQ would bring this thread down to his/her level. Not to confuse you with FACTS, but Bayliner & Trophy are two different boat lines, made in different locations, and with different hull warranties. I bought one new for $32k and sold it for $24k 8 years later. I could have bought a Grady and spent $64k and sold it for 48k 8 years later. Do the math you ignorant fool before you post garbage like that.
They aren't for everybody, but that doesn't mean you have to act so condescending. There are plenty of people who know a fair amount about boats, have a decent amount of disposable income, and still choose to go with a brand they feel offers more bang for the buck. I have nothing against Grady owners and nothing against Trophy owners. I just dislike people who need to justify themselves by dragging others down.
I had a higher priced higher tier boat and then moved to a Trophy. Did you hear me bashing Gradys and saying they are overpriced pieces of garbage with soft bulkheads & rotten transoms? No. I like Gradys and Trophies, but I guess something like that is too complicated for your little mind.
Jim, I almost fell out of my chair here I was laughing so hard.
As for the original poster....I am the original owner of a 2005 Trophy 2052. It's the smaller brother to the 23xx model. This is my second Trophy and I've got nothing but good to say about them. I would purchase another one without hesitation. Good luck in whatever you purchase.
The problem with Bayliner Trophy's is the low tier name, low-average quality components, low resell value but yet they are trying to sell them for mid tier price. Its ridiculous.
Just spend a little more and get a real nice good quality boat that doesn't have the Bayliner name attached to it. When its time to trade up, you'll thank me you didn't buy a Bayliner cause you be raped on its resell value.
I knew it was only a matter of time before some cretin with room temperature IQ would bring this thread down to his/her level. Not to confuse you with FACTS, but Bayliner & Trophy are two different boat lines, made in different locations, and with different hull warranties. I bought one new for $32k and sold it for $24k 8 years later. I could have bought a Grady and spent $64k and sold it for 48k 8 years later. Do the math you ignorant fool before you post garbage like that.
They aren't for everybody, but that doesn't mean you have to act so condescending. There are plenty of people who know a fair amount about boats, have a decent amount of disposable income, and still choose to go with a brand they feel offers more bang for the buck. I have nothing against Grady owners and nothing against Trophy owners. I just dislike people who need to justify themselves by dragging others down.
I had a higher priced higher tier boat and then moved to a Trophy. Did you hear me bashing Gradys and saying they are overpriced pieces of garbage with soft bulkheads & rotten transoms? No. I like Gradys and Trophies, but I guess something like that is too complicated for your little mind.
Did I ever once tell the guy he should buy a Grady or any other Top Tier boat instead? All I said was that Bayliner is trying to sell their boats for mid tier price when in the same price bracket, there are TONS of other choices that are much better. SeaHunt, Seaswirl, Sailfish, Wellcraft, Polar, Pro-line just to name a few. Spend a little more and get much more in return over the long run.
Never ridden on one but I have looked at them quite a bit and they have nice looking fit and finish and from everyone I have talked to that owns one they love them
and would buy another.
__________________ 210 CC Sea Pro
Yamaha 200 4 Stroke
Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 HEMI
It is a very good entry level boat.
I owned the 2352 as my first serious salt water boat and loved it!!! Including the payment.
One would be challenged to find someone who has spent some real time fishing on these boats (1999 and newer) logging serious complaints.
This is coming from a current Grady owner. The only reason I upgraded to the Grady was for longer range and a separate head in a 26 boat.
Buy it! USE IT! and enjoy the time on the water!
Tim
GradyLady - 1/26/2008 2:57 AM
in the same price bracket, there are TONS of other choices that are much better. SeaHunt, Seaswirl, Sailfish, Wellcraft, Polar, Pro-line just to name a few. Spend a little more and get much more in return over the long run.
Why are these brands "much better" than Trophy and please use objective criteria, opinions and hearsay aren't facts.
Feel free to take it anywhere you want - ride, construction, components, layup, layout, purchase price vs. resale, etc., as long as you use objective data.
Let's see how much you really know about boats, put up or shut up.
__________________ 2004 Trophy 2902 WA with Merc 225 EFIs
Sucks gas and hauls ass!
One step ahead and you are a genius, two steps ahead and you are a misfit.
hey Grady Lady you revealed exactly why you should keep your ill informed opinions to yourself......you included Polar in your list of boats "superior" to Trophy...if you had
any credibility of opinion at all you just blew it........even my 9 year old son knows Polar has had nothing but trouble over the last few years with gelcoat cracks and
blistering..and many lawsuits pending.....hey I own an Angler now for 4 years with no problems at all......should I trade it in for a Polar on your recommendation I just can't understand why people with high priced boats find it necessary to spew disparaging remarks about lower priced boats without one shred of evidence....it mind numbing.
I bought 2302 in 2005 new w/ a 250 Verado,9.9 kicker & TR1 its a great setup for Pacific NW we typically run out of the Tillamook bar & Columbia river both notorius for their bad conditions then into the Pacific for Halibut at about 30 milles out in the spring & chase Tuna in the summer up to 75 miles out.I have always felt safe even in some horrible conditions during the Halibut season in the spring.I looked at alot of boats before deciding on the 2302 Walkaround .I liked the layout and felt I got more bang for the buck.I try to ignore the uniformed and make up my own mind and feel it paid off in this purchase.The 250 Verado seems to be a perfect fit for this boat.In the Pacific where speed is not a great concern(rare flat days) getting out & over the bars takes alot of power & hole shot.Yes it will do over 40mph but who cares?To sum it up 350 hrs harsh conditions , no issues.I would do it again.
I really liked the boat and I think it will be a purchase.....Motor choices...225 opti or 225/250 Verado? I have always had 2 stroke and the opti fuel economy is significantly better. Any reason why I should stay away and go for the Verado? Thanks for the help!
I really liked the boat and I think it will be a purchase.....Motor choices...225 opti or 225/250 Verado? I have always had 2 stroke and the opti fuel economy is significantly better. Any reason why I should stay away and go for the Verado? Thanks for the help!
No reason at all to stay away from the Opti but the I would get the 250 Verado. Not as loud and a lot more refined with nice power steering and super charged power. And just think you could join the Verado club!