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Old 05-06-2003, 08:07 AM
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My "crew" is begging for a windlass! My boat is Grady White 24' Offshore 1984. I carry 600' of (non-special/common) 1/2" rode, 8' of chain and a suitable but not over-heavy anchor.
I'm looking for suggestions for correct model windlass.
My first consideration is current draw/battery requirements; the wiring would have to run from stern to bow.
I also think I need a model that can be easily released since I cannot mount it far aft enough from the bow roller to avoid the chain.
Any suggestions or ideas greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-06-2003, 09:21 AM
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Details...I don't have a anchor locker big enough to hold the rode, I want it to load on deck. Is a capstan type more suitable. Can the other type be modified to load on deck? Do the other types readily "freefall" to set anchor.
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Old 05-06-2003, 03:36 PM
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do a search of the old post. I do not remember the specific brands that were good but i do remeber people post about some of the windlass brands that were God awful. A search should turn up something worthwhile.
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Old 05-06-2003, 06:22 PM
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been there and done that windlass was more trouble than it was worth! go with an anchor ball (much more reliable and less cost!)
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:02 PM
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I researched this subject before I made my mind to go with the ball. Everyone that I have pull in the anchor sure like my ball. It doe's get tought if you are in a crowd

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Old 05-06-2003, 10:34 PM
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Just started using my new EZ Anchor Puller, So far so good. Check their website, they will send you a free video.

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Old 05-07-2003, 01:51 PM
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I think the Powerwinch 26 Class capstan winch may work for me, 500# pull, 8-12A under load. If anyone has experience with this model I'd appreciate a review.
Thanks to all who've responded.
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I have a capstan type windlass that we use all the time and it works great. I hold 1800' of line in my anchor locker, so it has to be laid in by hand for it to fit. If its a calm day or I'm in the middle of a fleet I'll use the capstan to pull the anchor. I will idle up on the line so that the windlass dosen't have to pull the weight of the boat. If its a rough day I'll use the ball to pull the hook off the bottom.
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As mentioned above, I would sure give an anchor ball a shot before going to a windless. It's almost effortless. All you have to do is wind up floating rope as the ball has the anchor and chain floating on the surface. The boat and ball have done all the work for you.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:55 PM
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I use both a windless and/or an anchor ball system on my 2520 Parker. I let wind, tide, and the anchoring location dictate which system I use on any given day.
Using a windless, never pull your anchor using the windless system alone. Always use your engine to power up to the anchor set.
And never anchor with a windless without tying the anchor line off to a cleat, in order to take the strain off the windless system.
Ever try to retrieve an anchor with 300 ft of line out, with a full running tide and a fierce bow-on wind, alone?
Even with an anchor ball, that can be a real fun time. Fortunately, I have a second station on my Parker, and that helps a lot.
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:18 PM
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With the capstan I believe my rode will have no ties to the windlass, I can free fall to anchor and if breaking the anchor loose is a problem I can tie the line to the bow cleat and pop it with the boat, no strain on the windlass. Yes, I would always follow the rode forward, not expect the winch/windlass to do the pulling.
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Hmm, I've got a problem with my anchor ball.

The ring gets caught up on the shackle and none of the chain pulls through. That means I have 18' of chain and a 22# anchor hanging below the ring. As I move the boat closer, the line slips through the ring and I lose the anchor deeper.

This defeats the purpose of the ball.

Do any of you have this problem? Do I need to splice the line onto the chain instead of using a shackle and thimble? What kind of splice wouldI use?

I'm also looking into a windlass. But, I'm having a hard time getting detailed specs or any photo's of installs. Does anyone know the url for powerwinch?

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Old 05-07-2003, 07:29 PM
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Is your shakle very large? My shakle is sized to 5/16 chain and works fine with an anchor ball. How large is the loop?
This is one I built myself, It works great.


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Old 05-07-2003, 08:03 PM
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bruce, my rig looks very similar to your's except I tie the float directly to the large ring. I have a standard shackle for 1/4 inch chain (one size larger - 5/16") and a standard 1/2" rope thimble spliced on.

It just seems to hang at the shackle for some reason. I haven't had it ride over yet. I do have a larger ball, I upgraded due to the size of my anchor, but that couldn't be it could it (pulling up firmer? - don't go there....)?

I was going to do the mechanics choice and apply duct tape to smooth the edges, but it seems like cheating.

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Old 05-07-2003, 11:09 PM
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Gerg, you might want to try something like the Sea Dog anchor swivel, part # 182612-1 / SDG1826121. If you do a google search, it will come up with pg 572. I believe it's actually on pg 579.

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Old 05-08-2003, 04:11 AM
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Gerg, I had the same problem with the anchor ball. My crew suggested I run harder upwind. Beside that problem I didn't like running slowly downwind to retrive it and stowage was a problem with my bow pulpit.

I don't think Powerwinch has a website; I've Googled all the different sellers to get the Powerwinch info.

Good luck whichever way you go. I'm pretty set on the PW 26Class, the bow cleat is in the way, I'm trying to design a bracket for the winch.
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Lobsta1 - that looks PERFECT!!!!!!

A little pricey, but the shape should do it for me. Of course it significantly ups the cost of loosing my ground tackle (sigh).

Thanks.

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Gerg, glad I could help. That price is SIGNIFICANTLY less than the West Marine version. I think the Sea Dog is better quality also. I notice in your signature, your boat is set between pilings. You must be south of the Cape.

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Old 05-08-2003, 09:07 PM
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God awful brands? If you just have to buy a windlass, stay away from anything by Lewmar/Simpson-Lawrence. They state a 3 year warranty...read the fine print. The only thing warranted for the full time are the "non-electrical" items. Since you are mounting this on the front of a boat, that gets wet all the time, what do you think breaks first? Of course, it is the electrical items like the motor housed in the waterproof housing that isn't.

Do yourself a favor and get an anchor ball. Save yourself the money and hassle.

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