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Old 12-04-2007, 06:16 PM   #1
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Hello,

I'm a new member and was advised to join and post my question on this board in hopes someone would have experience, advice or an opinion on the following matter.

I own a 1998 Gardywhite 248 voyager with a half top and canvas and vinyl windows. Unfortunately, the aluminum on the half tower has pitted badly and the vinyl and canvas windows will eventually need to be replaced. The reasons for the aluminum pitting is another story. Suffice to say at some point in time, I'm looking at replacing the half tower, windos and canvas.

A buddy of mine suggested I look into getting a pilot house made for my boat and I've contacted a few people, one of whom owns a very reputable boat company here on the West coast. Bottom line is it can be done, but I've been told it will add a significant amount of weight to the middle and bow section of the boat, possibly affecting the ride and the way it handles in following seas.

Has anyone had a pilothouse made for their boat aftermarket so to speak? If you did, did it affect your ride, handling, etc. Would you do it again?

Any and all input would be greatly appreciated.

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Bill
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Old 12-05-2007, 01:17 PM   #2
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The fairy tale is that the crap doesnt corrode. The hull truthis you have to watch aluminum for pitting along with a few others : stress cracking corrosion,groove corrosion,galvanic corrosion....can be nasty stuff. I would consult a marine engineer regarding the pilothouse.You wouldn't want to make her top heavy.In the early 70's Uniflite put a sedan bridge on top of a 33.5 cruiser.I've been at the helm of both models.Both on the same hulls and wow ... the difference in handling is amazing.The fly bridge model handled like a piece of crap ....although it was nice to sit up top . The boat was a lot more wobbly from port to starboard and about the same in a head sea.In a following sea it seemed a lot more wobbly.That little extra weight up top was all it took
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:02 PM   #3
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Will this work?

http://www.classicmako.com/projects/xshark/


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Old 12-06-2007, 01:03 PM   #4
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HOLY COW. Man that's some awesome work.

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Old 12-06-2007, 04:31 PM   #5
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Bill,

I contemplated doing a pilothouse for my Pro-line when my bimini top and sides was on its last legs. I had replaced the side panels once before.

I'm sure it would be very costly to have the pilothouse built by others. I thought about doing the project myself but admitted that I didn't have the time and would have to rent a place to do the work and miss many fishing trips due to the down time.

Have you considered removing the frame and having it powdercoated? I saw this done to a GW and thought it turned out great!

I ended up having a hardtop installed by www.pacificyachttowers.com and had the eisenglass panels and sides made locally. I used Samoid heavy fabric and thick 40 gauge Crystal Clear Marine glass. I am very happy with the finished product for a lot less time and effort than the pilothouse option. I should add that the curtain materials are much higher quality than the "option" provided by the manufacturer.

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Old 12-07-2007, 11:15 AM   #6
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Thanks for the input Warren. I've spoke to Tom? at www.pacificyachttowers.com and a half dozen or so other fabricators in So. Cal. They can all make a new aluminum hard top frame and they all seem to do good work. I didn't know I could use different gauge vinyl for the windows so I'll be looking into that.

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Old 12-07-2007, 02:44 PM   #7
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A center console pilothouse is not that had to build. There are some manufactures that sell them, but they are done in a mold and as such they don't have any overhang on the top. I hate the way that looks. Below you will see what I mean, plus it needs a opening front window.

Nidacore or Kledgecell or Divenacell is what I would build one with. The sides and front would be separate panels glued and glassed over. The hardtop would be another panel and glassed/ glued to the 3 sided structure.

The cuddy, pilothouse and hardtop on my boat weighs aprox 300lbs. It's cored with Divenacell around the front of the cuddy and all the rest is Kledgecell in different thickness.

http://www.pacificpilothouse.com/

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Wife and I stayed at the Pilot House from February 1st until the 9th of 2004 to celebrate our 25th anniversary. We booked the Attic Suite as it has its own deck overlooking the area complete with a hot tub, table, chairs and umbrella and two recliners to sunbathe. Nice place for breakfast and cocktails. There are a bunch of stairs to climb to get to the attic however. We did peak in other rooms in the Mansion and the poolside Cabanas all of which were very nice. This has some web pages listing this as a “Bed and Breakfast” but it is not.

Some pros include; a super location, clean and well kept, friendly staff, and a clothing optional pool.(so is the hot tub, which is huge!)
Some cons are that the pool is very refreshing (not heated and cold),limited sunning areas as the beautiful trees on the property block the sun except for a few areas. and the lack of the “breakfast.” The B&B concept lends to meeting others and some B&B’s even do happy hours. The price is a bit more then average perhaps due to the clothing optional aspect. Nudity is only allowed around the pool area which means you could walk from your Cabana to the pool but nowhere else, except we did on our attic deck. There was various stages of nudity, most were completely nude sunbathers. According to the staff that changes from time to time.
We will no doubt go back but I wish that they would heat the pool and trim back the trees so more people could sunbathe. An addition of at least a happy hour would be great ,breakfast would be even greater. I’d call to see if the trees have been trimmed and if not I’d go for the attic suite as you have full sun there.
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My guess is Alton is some kind of spamming robot. It obviously didn't read the thread.

As for a pilothouse on a boat, if built correctly it would add some weight as compared to a standard top but not so much as to ruin the boat. The key is lightweight, cored construction such as Warthog has done. Think of the added weight as a person. Would a 200 lb man standing under the top make much difference in the ride of your boat? How about two of them? I would think a properly executed pilothouse would add somewhere between 200 and 400 lbs to a small boat.
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I own a 2601 Seaswirl with the Alaskan Pack (pilot house). It make the boat top heavy and causes it to rock alot and also acts as a sail when drifting. It makes the boat drift very fast. Things to think about before you decide.
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