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Our 22' TwinVee was one of the first five built and is in excellent condition. No problems at all with the boat and over 850 hours on twin 70 4-stroke Suzukis. We did have to rebuild a lower unit on one of the motors but that was from picking up some line in the prop and taking out a seal. We cruise at 21-23 mph at 4200 rpm and top out at 33-35. I would power a new boat with at least Twin 90's. We can't bring the boat up on plane with one engine but would be able to with the 90's, not to mention a higher cruise and top end. The boat is a great fishing platform and performs well in all conditions. I have nothing but good to say about our TwinVee.
I recently bought a 22' CC Twin Vee and I really like the ride. I believe it is a great hardcore fishing boat that can take what you throw at it. Check out Powerboat Reports reveiw of the 22'(May 2002)that they bought for a test platform for engine tests. Their only real gripe is fit and finish. I believe as they do that the hull is built like a tank but if Twin Vee would spend just a little more on the finer details of finishing the boat their product would be the best on the market.(run on) Also they are reveiwing a a pre 2002 model which has seen a few changes. The big change is the rail cap and the forward deck. A lot of the issues that they have with the boat have been corrected on the 2002 model but a couple more hours spent on little things sure would make this boat complete. I guess by now you get my point. The more I use it the more I love it! E-mail me with any detailed questions.
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HMMMm went to boat reviews.com (pay 15 bucks per boat review? sheesh) and I wasnt impressed with twin vees review at all.
consoule and leaning post is just screwed down??? and came a part in the first week? I mean really, how hard is it to though bolt things like that down?
Batteries get soaked because the hatch is not water tight? Thats the last thing I want is my batteries floating.
Wood in the hull? OK I know if its done right its very strong and last a long time but still, I prefer no wood so you dont even have to worry about it.
They say one of the hulls filled up with water there first week? DIdnt understand what the reason was (which means I probably wouldnt have found it) but sheesh you would think for 40k they would put more time into these boats.
Bait well wasnt even attached at all?
80 gallon gas tank standard and you only get 1.9 mpg with twin 90s? Crappy range.
Rails though bolted but no backing? Its REALLY not hard to put a 2 by 4 inch piece of aluminum back there to strenghen stuff like that.
I can deal with a no frills boat, but it sounds like that still have some problems in there design. Especially when they just screw the counsole and leaning post down and the screws came out in a week.
I think this boat is coming off my list [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img] and I was so excited about it too.
hey, there are problems no doubt. we have a 26 cc. we told the dealer to nuke the entire baitwell station etc, takes up space, useless. we have a nice aluminum framed todd leaning post. heck you can ride a bike around the console. the other is that we have the batteries up high in the rear seat hatches, as are the oil compartments,it's tight, but they fit, and are DRY.
the suzuki 90's are way way underpowered. heck, we're running twin johnsons 150 counters, ( that have had some carb problems ) and running at a solid 40 mph @ 4500 rpm are netting better than 2 mpg, like 2.3 to be exact.
we can cruise thru a 3 foot chop in the ocean at 35 mph and not get pounded. we can cruise at 25 to 30 mph thru 3 to 5 footers and not get pounded, ok a little bit airborn.
and i can still pull the boat out with my truck to do some work, like double bow pulpits for some serious wreck fishing.
we even installed a 3 rd dedicated battery, a hauler, and a small solar panel to keep it charged to run all electronics, 2 depth finders, gps, vhf, adapters for cell phones etc.
the beauty of the design is that you can really do with it what you want.
the beauty of power boat reports is that they point out every bad point, and they are all correctable for a little time and sweat.
glacier bay needs some really big motors, is barely trailerable, unless u have a 3.5 ton truck, and cost 2 times as much.
i wish you could barrel at 45 mph @ 5000 rpm thru a 40 ft bertram wake,,,,, what wake?
we can walk off the boat at the end of the day and the rain will wash away blood, bait scraps etc.
you can make it work for you,it is important to have enough power so that you are operating in the economy range of the motor, not the upper end. suzuki's throw rods @ 6000 rpm! they do
Catman I see your points. Everyone has to come to a decision when buying a boat. One of the first decisions you make is buy new or used (most people anyway).
I am going with new because I dont want to be fixing things constantly. I realize you can do the things you have done with your boat but why should you have to? I'm sure there are small things everyone doesnt like about any single boat, but some of these issues are not small things. I am not saying they are bad boats, I just want a trouble free boat (as trouble free as they get I guess) and expect it to be when I buy it brand new.
Are there any other less expensive cats builders out there that I might want to research? Thanks for all the help.
There are other issues too with twin vee that just doesnt make since I forgot to mention. They dont have no skid decks? They dont use the vinylester resin in the gel coat which drasticly prevents cracks and more important blistering. They recommend you paint it? I dont want to have to paint my brand new boat.
Most of these things are minor and doesnt seem like it would be very expensive to fix all of it at the factory, why they havnt done so I dont know.
I don't know what your price range is, but you ought to check out www.renaissancecats.com and look at their Prowler 246. I just got one and am extremely happy with it. The change to a cat is unbelievable!
Simba, You should also check Kevlacat. They make a 20 and 24. These are total lengths including brackets. The 20 is more like a 19, and the 24 more like a 22 or 23. There is no wood in the new Kevlacats. Center console, deck, cap, is all glassed together, not screwed. They use a knitted kevlar that costs $5,000 per roll. They do not have a center console version of the 24 out now, but it should be out by the end of the year.
go to power boat reports they just released a report on this exact boat! they have been testing the Honda and Yamh 4 stroke engines on the awsome 22. Their sugestion was the Yammies! but they said it was a close contest. I dont have the web address but if you do a search for bower boat reports you will find it... I hate to say it but there is a subscription fee. post a message back if you have any other questions about powerboat reports I love it I am a new member they have lots of great reviews!
I've owned a Twin Vee 20 for about a month now. This site was and still is very positive on this manufacturer, but I've had problems with my hull. There were three distinct problems with the gelcoat. The problems have not been corrected yet, but I have been satisfied so far in the manuafacturer's response to the problems. The boat will go in for repairs next week.
The fiberglass guys that have looked at the boat for the purpose of repairing the gelcoat have both commented that the boat is built very strong.
The Twin Vee is a rolled-edge skiff similar to the contsruction of a Cape Horn. It's not top-notch fit and finish, but it is quite functional. Really, the standard boat comes with almost nothing. This leaves lots of options for customization. All of this, I thought were positives. It is really not comparable to World Cats and Glacier Bays which are liner boats with top-notch fit and finish, but they are 50% higher in price.
The 20, in particular, seems to be underpowered even with max hp (twin 70's). Max speed is 40. It really lacks range, too. Standard fuel capacity is 36 gal. There is an option of 13 more gals, but that don't help much.
Last weekend, I did a 200 mile round trip and we ended up burning 70 G with twin 70 2-strokes. The boat has tons and tons of cockpit space so carrying six 5 G cans of fuel was no big deal. I will probably put an 18 gallon portable tank in front of each engine to help with this fuel shortage problem.
The 22 ft Twin Vee with the twin 40 gal tanks and twin 115 4-strokes seems like it would be a quicker boat with better range. Don't own that one, so I'm not sure of that, though.
The ride is very impressive, but the boat has a fairly decent "sneeze" in a head sea. The boat leans pretty hard in a beam sea and handles all other seas very well.
One other brand that no one has mentioned is Leader. They make a 18 ft single engine cat and 20 and 22 footers that are twin engine applications. Pretty nice looking boats priced bewteen the price of Twin Vee and World Cat and Glacier Bay.