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Old 12-01-2007, 08:49 PM
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Default transom saver motor brace???

I see these things all the time on Bass boats but hardly ever on offshore style boats. I am thinking that I may get one "Just because"
I have heard folks say that "If you can, trailer with the motor in the down position to lower stress on the transom. Especially if you have a larger outboard" I see large offshore boats trailer this way often.

Well I think my 200 4 stroke qualifies as a large motor, but I definetly can't trailer with it in the down position.

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Default RE: transom saver motor brace???

I am no expert, but understand there are two schools of thought on this:

1. They can potentially cause transom damage by transferring the shock of road travels directly from the trailer frame to your transom.

2. They work to support the motor/motors while trailering, reducing the stress on the transom.

I don't know what the best answer is, but I decided to go with the MY-Y WEDGE, that takes the stress off the trim/tilt cylinders, (not the transom though) while trailering.

Seems like the transom takes a ton of stress while underway on the water, with the torque of the engines, etc, and should be built to handle reasonable loads while trailering. I always store the motors vertical, and only use the supports while moving the boat on the trailer.

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If you can mount one,do so.The trick of using one is to trim the motor all the way down against the transom saver.That means triming it till it locks and puts pressure on the transom saver.What that does is it locks the motor hard against the trailer/boat making them as one.Here is Louisiana,the roads really suck and trailering smaller boats,they take a beating were as bigger boats will bounce not as much do to weight on the trailer.Now if there was a way I could install them on my big boat,I would.Problem is it has a gill bracket with twin motors which puts the motors over 5' back away from the trailer.Now my flats boat,I do have a transom saver.
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Default Re: transom saver motor brace???

what about wedging a wood block in between the motor and bracket and lowing the motor down onto it...I've seen this done a few times...does this help anything?
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:53 AM
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Trailering with the motor down should not make too much difference on the transom.......same amount of weight.

Trailering with a transom saver, IMO, would transfer trailer forces directly to the motor which may be opposing the forces of the boat.

Trailering with a wedge or my-wedge (which I use for a 4S Johnson, recommended in manual to tow in down position. There is only a small lever/catch that is provided for trim up positions, not for trailering. That is why I bought one.) is just a "mechanical lock" . Still have the forces on the transom; caused by the weight of the motor.

I would think that similar forces are on your transom underway. So, maybe the only real benefit of these devices is providing a mechanical safety device to insure the motor stays in a up position during tow.

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I think the type of suspension makes some difference also. Springs ride much harder that torsion style suspension. My 18 cc SeaPro with F115 rides smooth as silk, don't even know it's behind me, has a WESCO aluminum single axle torsion suspension. My 14' flat bottom skiff, with a 20 H.P. on a WESCO with springs, I can watch the motor bouncing around in my rear view mirror over every little bump and pimple on the road...including major highways that seen smooth. I do use a 4X4 block of wood with my 18cc, wedged between the bracket, trimmed about 3/4 of the way down, mainly incase something should fail I don't want the lower unit to be destroyed.
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Bass (20" transom) and bay boats (20" or 25" transom) need them because there trailers are lower to the ground. If you can get your engine in the "trim" position when trailering and still have the proper clearance away from the pavement so that the lower unit will not scrape then you do not need a transom saver. Thats why you dont see larger boats, cc's etc with them.

However if in "trim" mode, you are too cloce to the ground and have to raise the engine upward to the "tilt" mode to get the proper clearance then you are a candidate for a transom saver or trim extenders.

Trim mode is tight and the engine will not bound......tilt mode is for stowing the motor upward out of the water when wet docked and is too bouncy for trailering and can damage your boats transom and motor hydrolics!!!

I never trailer with out my transom saver!!!
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Default Re: transom saver motor brace???

My Evinrude manual says to trailer down, BUT IF NOT POSSIBLE, the tilt bracket can be used.

I tried the transom saver, but I think it puts more stress on the transom "shock wise".
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[quote]pastaman1234 - 12/2/2007 12:59 PM I bent a tilt bracket on my 2002 ox66 and coincidentally the engine hydrolics cut out at the exact sime time. It was fixed under warranty but since i have never trailerd on the tilt bracket. Dealer saidwas were just an engine stand and cant support the weight of the motor during trailering. My yam might is differnnt then your rude,the rudes stand is much sturdier and even bass boats done use a transom saver when they have an evinrude. I wish they were all like that
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Trailering with the motor up can theoretically create some twisting forces on the transom if the motor bounces around. It usually doesnt though, the wt is actually quite balanced above the transom when tilted. Personally, I think the tilt bracket is fine, never had a problem using that. I have friends that wedge a block of wood under the motor too, never seen a problem their either. I think its really just another gimmicky gadget to sell people who have money burning a hole in their pocket.

That said, I use one. With the boat strapped down to the trailer, and the motor wt supported off of the transom saver, theres no significant movement of anything no matter how bumpy the road. Ive never had a problem with it either. It might not do anything beneficial, but it doesnt hurt either.

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mbb - 12/2/2007 2:16 PM Trailering with the motor up can theoretically create some twisting forces on the transom if the motor bounces around. It usually doesnt though, the wt is actually quite balanced above the transom when tilted. Personally, I think the tilt bracket is fine, never had a problem using that. I have friends that wedge a block of wood under the motor too, never seen a problem their either. I think its really just another gimmicky gadget to sell people who have money burning a hole in their pocket. That said, I use one. With the boat strapped down to the trailer, and the motor wt supported off of the transom saver, theres no significant movement of anything no matter how bumpy the road. Ive never had a problem with it either. It might not do anything beneficial, but it doesnt hurt either.


Almost every bass boat manufacturer gives you a transom saver for supporting the engine unless it's a brp motor. I am positive ranger does and i know triton too. They dont usually gives things costing about $50 away for no reason. If you dont see the engine bouncing around significantly no matter how bumpy the road woundt that tell you its working?Most motors bounce on the kick stands on a bumby road because the engine is in the tilt position which is weaker then the trim position.
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Perhaps they should call them "Trim Motor Savers".

I do not see how a an outboard motor driving down the road on a trailer can exert anywhere near the forces on the transom that running in the ocean can. Outboard boats can and do get airborne from time to time running in rough water. That doesn't happen on a trailer.

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Seacat FL - 12/2/2007 4:02 PM Perhaps they should call them &quot;Trim Motor Savers&quot;. I do not see how a an outboard motor driving down the road on a trailer can exert anywhere near the forces on the transom that running in the ocean can. Outboard boats can and do get airborne from time to time running in rough water. That doesn't happen on a trailer.


I know you can hit pretty big waves as i have and so have you but the quick hard shots from a pot hole on the highway at 65 i thinkarea little more jolting then hitting a big wave. Not too many people are getting airborn with their boats. Even in rough water the best place to beis sitting or standing is at the back of the boat where it gets the least abused where on a trailer the the most abuse comes the back above the axles where the heaviest part of your boat is located. Thats why i like my batteries located mid ship as well. Its a good medium between running in the water and trailering down the highway. The lead plates in batteries dont like to be jolted either.
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I disagree. The boat trailer has springs that take most of the shock.

A running OB puts huge loads on the transom just pushing the boat. Way more than a ride on a trailer.
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Read an article on this subject once. The transom saver is not meant to support the weight of the motor. It is meant to keep a trimmed motor from rocking back and forth when trailering. It is when the motor abrubtly (and abrubtly being a key word here) rocks back and forth that the damage can occur over time. Enough of the high speed hits over time, and the transom can begin to fatique. According the article, the forces experienced by a motor that abrubtly rocks back and forth when the boat hits a bump while being trailered, are different that what typically occurs on the water.
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Well thanks for all the replies.
I currently use the little "Travel lock" on my Yamaha, as it is a must that my motor be in the up position. I never thought about it bending or breaking, but Murphy is always out there. I guess that is one more reason for me to get a transom saver. I'll have to tell Santa.......

My motor never bounces or even moves but I still want one though.
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I guess that is one more reason for me to get a transom saver.
You will have a problem with your setup, in trying to use one. You have a short frame trailer. IE: The frame rails are not full length and the bunks are cantilevered past the rear cross member. The rear cross member is where the transom saver attaches to the trailer for support.




Full length frame trailer. This is something to keep in mind when your buying a trailer and not just price shopping.




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If you have a difficult trailer you can get trim extenders also. You will get another 2" or 3" of height (clearance from the road) in the trim position.
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I guess that is one more reason for me to get a transom saver.
You will have a problem with your setup, in trying to use one. You have a short frame trailer. IE: The frame rails are not full length and the bunks are cantilevered past the rear cross member. The rear cross member is where the transom saver attaches to the trailer for support.




Full length frame trailer. This is something to keep in mind when your buying a trailer and not just price shopping.



I seeeeeeee, I guess my search for a transom saver is over. Thanks for pointing that out. I love this place........
That trailer was just with the boat when I bought it. I did think it was a rather nice trailer, but I guess you can always get an upgrade.....
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