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Old 10-28-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Lauderdale Pics/Report, Contender 27T/31T, SeaVee 290b/320b, and Seahunter 29 Only

Headed down on Saturday morning to check out the subject boats, as I'm trying to make my 'short list'. Targeting 12-24 months to be in the market (depending on how soon I can get the time to be able to use it, and $, and 'permission' - i.e.avoid divorce). In the meantime, it's fun to figure out exactly what suits my needs, while also fulfilling the role of boat show 'dreamer' to get in Wiley's way.

And as far as I know now, my needs include solid laminate bottom, bi/tri-axial long-run cloth, preferably vacuum bagged, maximum storage/fishbox/livewell capacities, hardtop, Al tanks, large cockpit, transom door, Merc power, no-step deck, fast efficient hull, and some creature comforts for the wife and kid. You know, the basics.

Oh yes, and if I can get under 30' LOA and 9,000 lbs loaded, I can also deduct the costs of modifying my dock and upgrading my lift. Forget 'footitis', it doesn't live here.

I will try my best to make this objective and factual. If any reps/dealers/owners see that I've mis-stated anything, please correct me.

First stop was Contender / Boat Center:

27T:

Rear fishbox. Seem to be deeper than on previous models.



The world-famous Contender transom baitwells (27T now has 2 40-gal wells, like it's bigger brothers):



Just below deck inside bilge, looking forward. I'm no expert on stringer/deck joining, but I was surprised to see the gap extending forward of the nearest bulkhead and laterally above the locations I would believe there would be stringers:



Bilge, looking aft:





Console:







Anchor locker:



...and a few other shots. Overall a very nice package:









Contender 31T: Immense storage on this boat and a large cockpit. Very impressive. It appears about half the added length over the 27T is in the cockpit, and half ahead of the console. It also appeared to be quite a bit larger than the 27T (they were side-by-side). With the 27T advertised at 8500 lb dry weight, and the 33T at 13,500 lb loaded, I would guess this one would go close to 12,000 loaded.

Transom door:



Rear view, with some cool LED under-gunnel lighting:



Rear fishbox. Note the 31T rear boxes look to be about 12-18" longer than in the 27T. They really go way back. Seem likethey might bemore difficult to clean, especially with the drains to the bilge (did not see any lines or pump hookups):



And they are surprisingly deep. This shot is taken looking aft from inside the box. Look at the cross-section on the far wall, it's a very large box:



The aft top did not appear to be finished or sealed, and there's a gap between the box and the deck. Here's a closer look:



Center cockpit well:



Bilge:



Note that's the fishboxdrain at lower right, I believe:



Gunnel view:



Helm view:



Foredeck:



Front box:



Console:







Very large cockpit. I huge plus in my book:





Here you can compare the 27T and 31T cockpits (sort of):





Seahunter 29:

After hearing all the buzz about the Seahunter, I had to have a look. I will say this, the pictures on their website DO NOT do this hull justice, and it looks far sweeter in person. I was under the impression the hull bottom was cored, but the rep stated it was solid laminate.

I want to be fair here with a boat that's brand new design and fresh out of the mold, so I'm not going to comment on details as I'm sure they are working them out. I'm talking about things likebilge hardware, tackle station, and finishing touches. All relatively minor stuff, and I only mention them here to give a feel for the level and significance (i.e. easily 'fixed' if you think they need fixing in the first place).

Also the rep I talked to was very helpful and enthusiastic. He appeared proud to be showing the boat, and my impressions are that he had good reason to be.

This boat looks fast just sitting on the trailer!





Now for the storage: It was unbelievable. The front box has swordfish written all over it, and the rear center box (they said could be a livewell but guess that's if you're transporting 10,000 livies somewhere) was immense. I really like a big aft box like this, and this one went something like 30" wide by 18" deep by 60" long! (all guesstimates).



This boat also has a side-entry console, which appears to maximize storage space in front compared to the front-entry design. Hardtop, I was told, is Schedule 80 Al and very beefy. Piping design looks unusual in previous pictures I've seen, but I'd more aptly describe it as 'wild' in person. Still not sure whether I like it or not.

Transom needs a door near the gunnel for me, as I like to dive. That and some creature comforts (may be available - just didn't have time to ask), along with assurance of a solid bottom, would put this on my short list.

Sea Vee:

I focused on the 290b as it looked like a good fit for me, and since the 320b added length is apparently forward of the cockpit. Storage space is arranged differently than on the 27T, with saddle tanks (like the Seahunter 29) and a center livewell that is larger, but lacking the rear fishboxes. Creature comforts far better than the other brands, but less overall storage (boxes and wells). Cockpit size seems comparable. Fit, finish, hardtop, console, and attention to detail all better than the others (my opinion). Vacuum-bagged construction (another plus).

Donny, the salesman (turns out he's also the local SeaVee rep in my area) took the time to show me the boats in detail, even though I told him upfront I wasn't there to buy. He took time tohearandanswer all my questions, and I'd be surprised if that wasn't reflective of the customer service I'd expect from these guys. Appeared to be a very well-run operation. Definitelyon short-list.

290b:

Transom well (45 gal):



Center livewell (90 gal, can also be a fishbox):



To be fair, I took the same upper perimeter shot as on the Contender, but here it appears to be sealed:



Bilge (I forgot to do the forward shot just under the deck, like in the Contender - sensed wife becoming impatient!):







Console:







Front fishbox - maximizes available length:



And a few other shots of the 290b. I noticed the Sea Vee doesn't have the perimeter grabrail that Contender and Seahunter do. Would appreciate any real-world experience whether the rail is a significant plus:









In the end, all I can say is thank God the Sea Vee 290b did not have the center cockpit box of the Seahunter 29, a side-entry console, and the Contender transom wells, or I might well have had trouble explaining my actions to the wife...
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Contender wiring looks neat, but without drip loops, condensation runs down to, and collects on, the connections on the buss bars.
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FOR ALL YOU IDIOTS THAT WANT TO BASH AND PLAY "MY HIGH SCHOOL IS BETTER THEN YOUR HIGH SCHOOL" .....THIS IS WHAT A QUALITY POST IS ALL ABOUT..TAKE NOTE BILGE JERKS...

thanks very much..I know how much time it takes to put together a post like this and it is much appreciated...you add great value here for us....looks like you are very much thinking this out...if I can be of any help, please do not hesitate to ask....

I would suggest against the dark SV hull if it's gelcoat.....lotsa long term maintenance
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He is ........Great, Glen I mean.
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great pictures - i noticed the fuel filters for the contender are below the waterline? in the bilge? is that common - have not had that on any of my boats but can't say that I have checked others
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awesome post...and right up my alley since im in the market in the next couple of months. I was not impressed with some of the work done on some of these boats....one of the ones you mentioned had a 27 about 2 years ago for 99K at the show...now they are asking $140K but on technically a new design....so what?......i must be missing something.

I am most intrigued with the Seahunter. I wish it had the transom door, but im reevaluating my actual need for it since im more free diving than SCUBA. I also wish it was 6" wider cuz it seems like it might roll alot when not hauling butt. Im wondering how dry this boat can be with such a narrow hull. I guess they just outrun the waves.

The Bahama was AWESOME.....but for 30-60K more than both Seahunters, it is tough to justify for me.

The YF's were nice too, but huge.

How about we just start a Seahunter thread?....lol

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Glen: That avatar is killing me!

Doc:

The Seahunter is actually a wide boat (9'10" beam). I think it just looks narrow with those high sides. And the rep did mention they are getting alot of requests for the transom door so they may do one.

I agree about the pricing, though I did have an old 2006 Sea Vee price list, and the new 2008 list prices are about the same.
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Great post. I looked closely at the same boats. After this show I am really liking the seavee's. The fit and finish and over all quality was the best IMO. I was also impressed with islandrunner. Both of these I have never really looked close at and I finally have and am pleasantly surprised.
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Great pictures, thanks for sharing.

Though you may already know, the 31T will take you above your targeted LOA of 30'. Hearing your concerns and wants (i.e. family/wife wants), my vote would be for either the Sea Hunter or the Sea Vee, can't go wrong with either. Plus, I think that these two manufactures do a great job in rigging Mercs which is the power you want.

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one of the seahunter reps told me the same thing about the transom door.....i like that they are local and no dealers....factory direct. The price is also very attractive as i can get either a 29 or a 35 with twins.....plus there arent too many used ones for sale.

Seatrials and the price of the Yellowfin 32 will have an impact.

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FOR ALL YOU IDIOTS THAT WANT TO BASH AND PLAY "MY HIGH SCHOOL IS BETTER THEN YOUR HIGH SCHOOL" .....THIS IS WHAT A QUALITY POST IS ALL ABOUT..TAKE NOTE BILGE JERKS...
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this s**t has got to stop...killing a great resource...
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C’mon guys…..this is crap…..this has got to stop…

.....the jerks that want to fight rather than help.....
.....too may idiots here auguring about nothing…and bashing …
.....because here is so bad…


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I agree Glen, these are great posts that though express opinion, still try to be objective and informative.

Seems like someone is keeping a journal on you.
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WoW Glen-You don't want to get that blood pressure real high before you retire!
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By far the best of that bunch is the SeaVee. Amazing boat. Impeccable finish.
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FOR ALL YOU IDIOTS THAT WANT TO BASH AND PLAY "MY HIGH SCHOOL IS BETTER THEN YOUR HIGH SCHOOL" .....THIS IS WHAT A QUALITY POST IS ALL ABOUT..TAKE NOTE BILGE JERKS...
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C’mon guys…..this is crap…..this has got to stop…

.....the jerks that want to fight rather than help.....
.....too may idiots here auguring about nothing…and bashing …
.....because here is so bad…
From the past few months;

Quote:
...you jerk...
...jerkweed...
...you're a jerk...
yes the guy is a jerk
...you are a true jerk.....
..you anal jerks...
hey jerkweed...
you jerk!
you idiots
"you jerks"....lighten up
the jerks go away....
yes you did jerkweed....with that crap "mounting speakers in a RR" comment
I won't take any crap from this jerk
jerkweed....


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This bulkhead needs a few more holes.
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Wow all you people who keep tabs on glen have no lives. Get out, have a drink, stop internet stalking...

BTW glen, I saw what you did in the shower and how you drove today, tisk tisk...
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That took all of 5 minutes.

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stop listening to idiots
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For the bashing idiots here
this guy is an idiot
Just search the last 6 months and look for his pic in the threads. Simple.
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Thanks for some nice shots.....especially in the crannys......I see there's still wood in a lot of boats...)
That one bulkhead shot I hope is not wood. I think you're doing the level of inspection "below the skin" that
anyone buying a boat should do.
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