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Old 09-08-2007, 09:04 PM
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i just had my powerhead replaced on a 2001 250 ox66. in order to get the double lube durring break in they put yamalube directly in the fuel tank. will that work? i thought i would have to run an auxillary tank. also they put a yamaha fuel/water seperaton in the bilge. i was told not to bother dumping it every once in a while because i wasn't going to see the water in the fuel because of the ethenol. i was also told that racors are a waste of time because the ethenol keeps the water suspended in the fuel so you wont see it. i was told to just replace the filter. i'm sorry but a fuel/water seperator seperates the water from the fuel so it can be extracted right? i really dont want to lose another powerhead. does anyone have a proven way to keep the fuel right?
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yes on the oil.can't help you on e-10 as we don't have it thank goodness
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HOW MUCH did the power head cost you and how many hours were on the engine? what happened? Did it go or did you just want to replace it? THX
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green74 - 9/8/2007 8:04 PM i just had my powerhead replaced on a 2001 250 ox66. in order to get the double lube durring break in they put yamalube directly in the fuel tank. will that work?

YES, of course, how else would you get double oil

i thought i would have to run an auxillary tank. also they put a yamaha fuel/water seperaton in the bilge. i was told not to bother dumping it every once in a while because i wasn't going to see the water in the fuel because of the ethenol. i was also told that racors are a waste of time because the ethenol keeps the water suspended in the fuel so you wont see it. i was told to just replace the filter. i'm sorry but a fuel/water seperator seperates the water from the fuel so it can be extracted right? i really dont want to lose another powerhead. does anyone have a proven way to keep the fuel right?
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You can get Racors that are designed to work with the Ethenol ....

http://www.parker.com/racor/pdf/Pres...neGasoline.pdf

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also they put a yamaha fuel/water seperaton in the bilge. i was told not to bother dumping it every once in a while because i wasn't going to see the water in the fuel because of the ethenol. i was also told that racors are a waste of time because the ethenol keeps the water suspended in the fuel so you wont see it. i was told to just replace the filter. i'm sorry but a fuel/water seperator seperates the water from the fuel so it can be extracted right?
It is true that water is miscible (dissolvable) in ethanol. So a small amount of water, perhaps from water vapor in the air or condensation in your tank, will dissolve in an ethanol-gas mixture. This dissolved water will then pass through your engine and be expelled inthe exhaust. However, there is definitely a limit to the amount of water that can be dissolved in E10 gas before it is saturated.

"When water content reaches the 0.4 - 0.8 weight percentage, water and ethanol separate from the gasoline. They float above the gasoline in the tank, which can cause engine stalling." (see http://www.greenfuels.org/ethanol/terms.htm) [Note: I think that water will SINK BELOW gas rather than float on top of it.]

Here is a neat interactive chemistry lession about how ethanol and water interact (http://www.mpcfaculty.net/mark_bisho...l_solution.htm).

Personally, I think that a water separating filter is still necessary even with E10 gas. You need both he filter itself for sediment and the water seperator for any precipiated water. I use disposable 10 micron filters rather than a racor with a bowl, but that is personal preference. I change my fuel filters every 50 or so hours as recommended by Yahama, which is a lot more often than was common in the old days.

I think that either your mechanic over-simplified things or perhaps you did not include in your post all of the detail provided by your mechanic for sake of brevity.
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49er, powerhead blew at 196hrs. supposedly because of water in fuel. cost 7200, that includes sensors, injectors, plugs, vst ect. i felt that the dealer really wasn't as concerned as i am about making sure it doesn't happen again.
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It sounds like your mechanic is giving you good advice. Boating is not a cheap sport. Replace your fuel filter every year or 100 running hours, which ever comes first. Maybe this powerhead will last longer.
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