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Old 08-30-2007, 01:13 AM
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Why does Grady White still use marine grade plywood in their stringer system??

Heat, Dampness, and time will cause all wood to rot. A good friend of mine has rotten stringers on his 10 year old 26 ft. CC Grady White. Most of his stringers are gone and have rotted away. The only thing left is the fiberglass that encased those wood stringers. After he noticed the problem he had a Professional Marine Surveyor and a Grady White dealer diagnose the Problem.

I am waiting to hear if Grady will help or do anything for my friend. Why does Grady White use a product that is inferior when so much better technology is available??? Are Grady's overrated and overpriced??????????

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Wow. I am laying low after starting two fights today. This one ought to be good........

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I was all set to buy their 228 until I found out that they still used wood. I then quickly passed.

They can claim whatever they want about the "lifetime" warranty. I've seen some of the hoops that you have to jump through to collect on those. The wood is guaranteed by the wood MFG, not Grady.

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I think better sell my 306 Bimini now... Any takers out there? Come get it before it rots to nothing!
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:00 AM
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It is my understanding that there are advantages and disadvantages to the different types of construction.
The "Wood Free" construction opens up pockets for water to collect, freeze and cause damage.
It is my belief that wood is light and strong, that is why they do it.
What was the sign that indicated he had rotten stringers?
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Where's that little popcorn guy?
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I think Pursuit still has wood cores in their stringers too. If they are properly sealed for all eternity then no problem.
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THE BEST STRINGERS ARE WOOD AND GRADY STRINGERS ARE MORE DURABLE THAN FIBERGLASS STRINGERS. WOOD ABSORBS ENERGY INSTEAD OF PASSING TO THE PASSENGERS AND IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE CRAP USED BY OTHERS. I DOUBT YOUR STORY AND SUGGEST YOU ARE A LIAR BEING HURT BY THE COMPETITION AND ONE OF THOSE SALESMEN THAT KNOCK THE COMPETION WITH LIES AND FALSE STATEMENTS LIKE YOU ARE DOING NOW. LIAR.
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I should check my stringers Panic sets in.........not
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I agree Gradys are junk that will rot soon. Especialy if you have a 22 walk around. So if you have one of those I'll help you out and buy it from you for $5000. Cut your losses and sell it to me before it sinks.
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Just read an article in the Sept '07 Power and Motoryacht about all the different materials that are used in cored hulls. Viking Yachts to this day uses end grain balsa.

They seem to stay afloat.
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Pictures of the rot please?
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Another friend looking out for a buddy with boat problems, now GW is going to lose millions in new boat sales if they don't step to the plate and fix this one. Hope he doesn't also have Gel Coat problems.
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Anyone want my 27 year old Grady? It feels really solid, but after reading this.....? I dont know If I can take it offshore shore like I planned this weekend! First guy with10$ can take it!
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I replaced some rotted wood cored engine stringers in my Sailfish (Sportcraft) WAC I/O. There were two fundamental problems. The first was that the bottom of the wood pieces were cut square instead of matching the deadrise, which left a void. The second was that the engine plate mounting bolts were simply straight through as were the blower hose cutouts and several other mounting screws/bolts. So any water that seeped in could get under the wood for the length of the engine mount stringer. They rotted from the bottom up. When I replaced them it was by slicing the tops off and leaving the fiberglass sheels, pouring in epoxe/cabosil to fill the voids, and then regglassing the tops and sides. I drilled out the engine mount plate holes and put in 1" fiberglass rod, glassed over and then drilled through the rod for the mounting bolts. This is so long to illustrate that done correctly, encapsulated wood will last forever IF you don't penetrate the glass and let water in.
And it's about as strong as it gets for a composite. Form cores aren't perfect either...as noted. They can absorb water to and turn to mush over time and with freeze cycles.
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Anyone want my 27 year old Grady? It feels really solid, but after reading this.....? I dont know If I can take it offshore shore like I planned this weekend! First guy with10$ can take it!
$7.50 and you fill it up
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uh oh. first don27 tells me i have no business fishing offshore with a single and now this. what is next? this is surely a sign of the boating apocalypse. seeing how my albemarle has wood stringers AND a wood transom i think it would be best used as an arc one the floods and whatnot begin. im soo screwed
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Sea Balz - 8/30/2007 1:13 AM Why does Grady White still use marine grade plywood in their stringer system?? Heat, Dampness, and time will cause all wood to rot. A good friend of mine has rotten stringers on his 10 year old 26 ft. CC Grady White. Most of his stringers are gone and have rotted away. The only thing left is the fiberglass that encased those wood stringers. After he noticed the problem he had a Professional Marine Surveyor and a Grady White dealer diagnose the Problem. I am waiting to hear if Grady will help or do anything for my friend. Why does Grady White use a product that is inferior when so much better technology is available??? Are Grady's overrated and overpriced??????????


I am sorry for your friend but this isn't anything new with Grady White. I have heard of many of their boats from the 80s and early 90s with a wood rot problem in the transoms and stringers. Plus if your friend or the dealer put some unsealed holes in the deck that just invites water and eventual rot.

I thought they were now using some brand of wood with a lifetime warranty so maybe your friend's boat falls into that category. Grady has a reputation for good customer service so I'm sure they'll do something for him.

Wood is still the strongest core material for boats but it has to be sealed correctly.

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Nothing wrong with wood in a boat if its sealed properly. I know a charter boat out of hatteras that's built out of regular plywood but its been heavily glassed and no problems.
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Why does Grady White still use marine grade plywood in their stringer system??

Heat, Dampness, and time will cause all wood to rot. A good friend of mine has rotten stringers on his 10 year old 26 ft. CC Grady White. Most of his stringers are gone and have rotted away. The only thing left is the fiberglass that encased those wood stringers. After he noticed the problem he had a Professional Marine Surveyor and a Grady White dealer diagnose the Problem.

I am waiting to hear if Grady will help or do anything for my friend. Why does Grady White use a product that is inferior when so much better technology is available??? Are Grady's overrated and overpriced??????????
you're asking for trouble on this one...grady owners are gonna slam you to death...truth of the matter is the gradys have a rot problem-plain and simple...the newer rigs are using "greenwood" it has a life time"no rot" warranty...the older hulls used plywood,and they didn't use marine grade plywood-look at the core of any thing that gets removed from a grady,the end grain of the wood will have numerous voids,it's not marine grade...
i've lost count of the gradys with rotting problems i've repaired,and yes,i've got pictures of them...there's a few guys on this site that have had their gradys surveyed,"askibum" is one of them,his rig has a considerible amount of moisture in the transom-read that as it's water logged and rotting,along with the stringer ends...

wood is the best choice for a core material,however,it will rot if it's not sealed properly...grady does a very poor job of sealing the wood core...

and yes a grady is very overpriced as well as overrated...here's a great example,the electrical system on a grady,pick one of the factory harness wires,cut it and then strip the wire....what color is the wire ??? if it's copper,it's standard automotive wire...if it's silver in appearance,it's tinned marine grade wire...now which color is it ??? i know the answer...doubt me ??? do it on your prescious grady,then let me know....
tinned marine grade wire should be on a boat right ??? especially one as expensive and built as well as a grady white right ??? wonder what other corners the grady factory cuts ???
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